Standby
 

Please, as an ATC here, if you are asked to “standby” please don’t read that back to us, just keep quiet haha
we are generally attending to another matter like telephone cooordination or working out separation, which is interrupted every time there’s a transmission, including the response “standing by”. A read back of this sort causes much vexation And higher likelihood that the return of your call goes further down the list of things to do 😂😂

Roger that, standing by.

Acknowledge your standby, request expected time of next call.

Say again?

Maybe you blokes should remember that you guys are there to assist us and not us assist you. If there where no pilots your job would be obsolete.

Also, in my opinion I think Perth ATC should take a leaf from east coast guys. The difference between service is remarkable.

Careful what you wish for
 

Perth Approach or Pearce Approach:yuk:?

Thanks Rotorblade,
You are trying to provide the best service and to that end you need pilots to be aware of their read back responsibilities, in my experience far too many of my colleagues are unsure and so parrot back everything, taking time and blocking the frequency.
Unlike another poster on this thread I appreciate what you do for us.

A request for all controllers from the pilots.

Provided the weather is good (indicated by a lack of diversions by other pilots on frequency) if my flight planned track is not a straight line from origin to destination I ALWAYS want track shortening.

Thanks.

Thanks Rotorblade - good request. It's one of my pet hates too (although probably close second to people reading back "expect" information...).

Pretty poor form that Skippy69 had to use your well intentioned request / dialogue as a chance to put the boot into ATC. :mad:

Fixed it for ya Skippy.
PS: We need each other, the OP is merely pointing out what can be an embuggerance to him/her providing a service.

Fixed it for you, Megan...

Have heard "ABC report position" which was responded to with "report position, ABC".

"ABC say level passing"



"...level passing, ABC"

“ABC, say heading.”

”heading, ABC.”

“ABC! say heading.”

”heading, ABC.”

”ABC, say cancelling IFR.”

”heading 135, ABC.”

Maybe not that many readers will remember, back in 1997 there was a change in procedures including readbacks. Prior to that there was only about 5 items that had a mandatory read back. The proposed changes (to bring Oz into line with ICAO) were agreed at a two day industry/AirServices/CASA meeting in CBR which had a large attendance. The problem was that the education that followed was almost non existent and we now have the problem outlined at the start of this thread.
Sadly CASA has taken little interest in radio phraseology ever since and those responsible in industry all seem to have different views on what to say and when. Readbacks are but one area that is poorly understood by many pilots from GA to RPT.(including CASA examiners!)

Someone please tell me this is a piss-take, or that Skippy is drunk.

Sounds perfectly accurate to me. Pilots and aeroplanes don't exist just to give ATC something to do. ATC exists to orchestrate proceedings and assist pilots.
I used to say this to new pilots "ATC is down their for your benefit, you are not up there for theirs." And it's true.

ATC exists so that Pilots can have Heroes too.

Maybe if they put more staff on and didn’t use the same enroute controller from Melbourne to Dubbbo or even further, then they wouldn’t have to tell us to stand by.