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Old 15th Aug 2022, 14:52
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Standby

Please, as an ATC here, if you are asked to “standby” please don’t read that back to us, just keep quiet haha
we are generally attending to another matter like telephone cooordination or working out separation, which is interrupted every time there’s a transmission, including the response “standing by”. A read back of this sort causes much vexation And higher likelihood that the return of your call goes further down the list of things to do 😂😂
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Old 15th Aug 2022, 21:23
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Roger that, standing by.
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Old 15th Aug 2022, 21:29
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Acknowledge your standby, request expected time of next call.
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Old 16th Aug 2022, 00:02
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Say again?
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Old 16th Aug 2022, 00:14
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Maybe you blokes should remember that you guys are there to assist us and not us assist you. If there where no pilots your job would be obsolete.

Also, in my opinion I think Perth ATC should take a leaf from east coast guys. The difference between service is remarkable.
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Old 16th Aug 2022, 00:53
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Careful what you wish for

Perth Approach or Pearce Approach?
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Old 16th Aug 2022, 01:34
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Thanks Rotorblade,
You are trying to provide the best service and to that end you need pilots to be aware of their read back responsibilities, in my experience far too many of my colleagues are unsure and so parrot back everything, taking time and blocking the frequency.
Unlike another poster on this thread I appreciate what you do for us.
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Old 16th Aug 2022, 01:40
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A request for all controllers from the pilots.

Provided the weather is good (indicated by a lack of diversions by other pilots on frequency) if my flight planned track is not a straight line from origin to destination I ALWAYS want track shortening.

Thanks.
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Old 16th Aug 2022, 03:52
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Thanks Rotorblade - good request. It's one of my pet hates too (although probably close second to people reading back "expect" information...).

Pretty poor form that Skippy69 had to use your well intentioned request / dialogue as a chance to put the boot into ATC.
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Old 16th Aug 2022, 04:48
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If there where no ATC your job would be obsolete
Fixed it for ya Skippy.
PS: We need each other, the OP is merely pointing out what can be an embuggerance to him/her providing a service.
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Old 16th Aug 2022, 06:10
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If there were no ATC your job would be obsolete
Fixed it for you, Megan...
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Old 16th Aug 2022, 07:14
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Have heard "ABC report position" which was responded to with "report position, ABC".
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Old 16th Aug 2022, 11:14
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"ABC say level passing"



"...level passing, ABC"
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Old 16th Aug 2022, 11:24
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“ABC, say heading.”

”heading, ABC.”

“ABC! say heading.”

”heading, ABC.”

”ABC, say cancelling IFR.”

”heading 135, ABC.”
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Old 16th Aug 2022, 13:26
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Maybe not that many readers will remember, back in 1997 there was a change in procedures including readbacks. Prior to that there was only about 5 items that had a mandatory read back. The proposed changes (to bring Oz into line with ICAO) were agreed at a two day industry/AirServices/CASA meeting in CBR which had a large attendance. The problem was that the education that followed was almost non existent and we now have the problem outlined at the start of this thread.
Sadly CASA has taken little interest in radio phraseology ever since and those responsible in industry all seem to have different views on what to say and when. Readbacks are but one area that is poorly understood by many pilots from GA to RPT.(including CASA examiners!)
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Old 17th Aug 2022, 02:02
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Originally Posted by Skippy69
Maybe you blokes should remember that you guys are there to assist us and not us assist you. If there where no pilots your job would be obsolete.
Someone please tell me this is a piss-take, or that Skippy is drunk.
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Old 17th Aug 2022, 02:24
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Sounds perfectly accurate to me. Pilots and aeroplanes don't exist just to give ATC something to do. ATC exists to orchestrate proceedings and assist pilots.
I used to say this to new pilots "ATC is down their for your benefit, you are not up there for theirs." And it's true.
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Old 17th Aug 2022, 03:01
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ATC exists so that Pilots can have Heroes too.
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Old 17th Aug 2022, 03:16
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Maybe if they put more staff on and didn’t use the same enroute controller from Melbourne to Dubbbo or even further, then they wouldn’t have to tell us to stand by.
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Old 17th Aug 2022, 03:42
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Originally Posted by Squawk7700
Maybe if they put more staff on and didn’t use the same enroute controller from Melbourne to Dubbbo or even further, then they wouldn’t have to tell us to stand by.
But then how would upper management get their bonuses?
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