Plane down in water off Perth beach today
VH-JTW (TB-20) went for a swim yesterday. Apparently only in the air for twenty minutes before suffering engine trouble & ditching. Pilot & passenger escaped unharmed - plane is a mess though.
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Pilot did an XLNT job of ditching at City Beach about 10 m or so off shore onto the waves.
Passenger reportedly told the 'Press' that the beach itself was not an option due to the many beachgoers on the beach, and 'they would not have heard the approaching aircraft with the engine stopped'. The aircraft's tail broke off on impact. The aircraft was later recovered and removed on a flatbed for further assessment..... A job WELL DUN in difficult circumstances! Cheers |
Wasn't that one of Jim Westwards old Trinidads from AFTS? I seem to recall it as a bit if a hangar queen in the mid-nineties at BK...... it had yellow stipes on the tail , blue stripes along the side and a horrible yellow spinner.... if my 59 year old memory serves me correctly.
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Witness says pilot switched engines before forced landing.
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Originally Posted by Stationair8
(Post 11142244)
Witness says pilot switched engines before forced landing.
How would you do that in a single ? |
Originally Posted by Stationair8
(Post 11142244)
Witness says pilot switched engines before forced landing.
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In fairness, the witness is quoted as saying what the pilot said. Either the witness misheard the pilot stating that he tried switching fuel tanks, or the pilot was a bit confused...
Or maybe the reporter misheard or misquoted the witness... |
Thronomister Motor
He may have been trying to switch to the Backup Thronomister Motor but unless there was sufficient Chemtrail he would not have been able to maintain height.
It's just a theory but others have been caught out before. |
According to the ABC, this is a five seat military trainer.
I'm sure Geoffrey Thomas will be able to tell us exactly what happened, though I suspect a faulty flux capacitor. |
Spot On Clare, I had forgotten that this model has had problems in the past with stuck flux capacitors.
He did a good job steering away from the local school, hospital and orphanage. |
It's more likely to have been a reversal of the polarity on the discharge condenser: one of those 'gotachas' on Socata TB20s (apart, of course, from the -5 variants with the schvetzer valve).
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Plane down in water
A TB-10 with two engines! I missed the second in my check list. Could it have been the rubber bands not having enough twist in them or the Chipmunks were not peddling hard enough.
But at the end of the day it was a good forced landing. The gear-up helped it for a smooth landing and then to step on the wing and onto the shore. More beer can material in the making. |
Will the French Ambassdor scurry back to France after this French aircraft was sabotaged?
On a serious note, nice work by the pilot. |
Quite the impact, you don’t often see tails snapping off, so lucky to get out ok!
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Originally Posted by Squawk7700
(Post 11142329)
Quite the impact, you don’t often see tails snapping off, so lucky to get out ok!
Good result in the situation |
That fuselage damage looks like a very clean cut, almost like a prop strike. Maybe the second engine was in the back on a pallet and trying to switch to it caused the damage. :E
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https://edition.cnn.com/2021/11/14/u...cue/index.html
I think this one qualifies as the ditching of the day; didn't even appear to get his feet wet. |
Hopefully the pilot was a LAME and therefore suitably licenced to switch the engine.
Good job though in difficult circumstances. Everyone walked away. Well, swam, I guess. |
Originally Posted by chimbu warrior
(Post 11142441)
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/11/14/u...cue/index.html
I think this one qualifies as the ditching of the day; didn't even appear to get his feet wet. |
Originally Posted by Lead Balloon
(Post 11142278)
In fairness, the witness is quoted as saying what the pilot said. Either the witness misheard the pilot stating that he tried switching fuel tanks, or the pilot was a bit confused...
Or maybe the reporter misheard or misquoted the witness... Happily we should hear first hand soon . . |
Just reported-engine had flooded carby...
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Originally Posted by chimbu warrior
(Post 11142441)
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/11/14/u...cue/index.html
I think this one qualifies as the ditching of the day; didn't even appear to get his feet wet. The reason the pilot isn't wet and doesn't have a life jacket on is that the aircraft is sitting on the bottom. The waters off Cedar Keys Florida are very shallow. |
Originally Posted by The Banjo
(Post 11143157)
Just reported-engine had flooded carby...
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The situational awareness and quick actions of the Marine Interdiction Agents and Sheriff's Deputies prevented a possible human tragedy," said Michael Matthies, Deputy Director of Marine Operations. "We are thankful we have the proper resources and trained personnel to perform when incidents like this present themselves. We completely missed seeing an aircraft crash nearby on a perfectly clear and calm day, then happened to accidently come across it, and were able to get close enough to pull the pilot who had rescued himself on to our boat. |
The reason the pilot isn't wet |
Oi rekkon OI'd be a fair bit 'soaked' in the next hour or so tooo.....
Cheeerrrsss...... (Hic) |
Originally Posted by Progressive
(Post 11143313)
On an Injected 540?
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Originally Posted by Oodnadatta
(Post 11142301)
He may have been trying to switch to the Backup Thronomister Motor but unless there was sufficient Chemtrail he would not have been able to maintain height.
It's just a theory but others have been caught out before. |
Now that the finest “Aviation Experts” in Australia (Except GT) have suggested the most likely cause of this event I was wondering if those in charge have been able to download the contents of the “Black Boxes” from the aircraft. This would help stop the speculation and the media could report the actual cause.
Cheers, Oods. |
‘Oodna’, I’m surprised that your unaware that the black box has in fact been analysed at the ATSB’s Oodnadatta depot. It’s probably sitting on a bench just round the corner from your place.
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This was a turboencabulator failure, without doubt. Usually it's fretting on the prefabulated amulite base.
Classical symptoms. |
Geez Megle2, I dropped the ball on that one. Not many corners around here but I know where you mean.
I was distracted trying to figure out why a WA couple got bogged in the Simpson Desert. The Oodnadatta refueller can give you the full story. Cheers, Oods. |
This was a turboencabulator failure, without doubt. Usually it's fretting on the prefabulated amulite base. |
Unlike the pilot who probably did a weather check before flight, the Simpson campervanner obviously did not.
Bit of a transcontinental shift in thread … from surf to sand. Van recoverable, Tobago beyond it. |
Originally Posted by aroa
(Post 11143967)
Unlike the pilot who probably did a weather check before flight, the Simpson campervanner obviously did not.
Bit of a transcontinental shift in thread … from surf to sand. Van recoverable, Tobago beyond it. |
GeeeeSus Gerry , I think you've GOT-IT.
"That would NEVER 'appen in GA" ......Well.....Hardly ever...???? Cheeerrrssss |
Originally Posted by aroa
(Post 11143967)
Unlike the pilot who probably did a weather check before flight, the Simpson campervanner obviously did not.
Bit of a transcontinental shift in thread … from surf to sand. Van recoverable, Tobago beyond it. |
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Originally Posted by Pinky the pilot
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Doesn't that cause, amongst a few other things, to make both the fuel dump and the chemtrail dump valves jam open?:confused:
Simply, the modern replacements are not up to the standard of the original General Electric versions. I've attached a data sheet which highlights the high quality units that we once enjoyed. Sadly, not everything new is better. |
"According to the ABC, this is a five seat military trainer. I'm sure Geoffrey Thomas will be able to tell us exactly what happened, though I suspect a faulty flux capacitor." |
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