Great wind-up!

I'm not sure I understand. Is the suggestion the OP is punking the PPruNe community with the PPL-H brainwave?

I just registerd myself on this foroum, cause I'm in the same situation, i've a lot of debts. I have no job after the PPL-H. I'm currently hestitating to be graduate of ATPL-A. What do you think about this ?Do you think it can improve my chances to find a job ?
My dream is to work for virgin altantic

The call center is calling you. Put the aviation career on hold for the time being and find something else to do. You totally lost me with the PPL-H thing...

This is why I loathe so many of my colleagues in aviation. A young person comes in here, despondent at lack of flying jobs, and the majority of responses just demonstrate how incredibly egotistical most pilots are. Why can’t you be adults and be supportive of someone, rather than using it to dig in the knife in over their choices and start your own pity party?

“Never mind you mate, imagine if you were already working in aviation!”

“You shouldn’t have borrowed money to learn to fly.”

”Here’s a song about crying tears.”

With so many self-centred, egotistical responses from Aussie pilots - it’s no surprise ‘89 happened.

Petra - it will be okay. Get other employment ASAP, get lots of hobbies and outside interests to keep your mind and body busy, but simultaneously keep beating on doors to get your first flying job. Life can’t be controlled, and things will happen when the universe wants them to - not on your schedule.

I finished my CPL and MECIR within weeks of September 11 and thought I’d never get a job as pilot. It didn’t take too long to find something, and then a few years later there was an incredible pilot shortage. Aviation is a feast and famine industry. We’re in famine at the moment, so feast is coming.

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Petra = CosmicVirgin. :}

Keep throwing that burley out, the fish are biting furiously !!!!

I will take the bait because I think she is probably simply young and scatterbrained. In this and her earlier threads she has has copped a few negative comments, but overall, people here have tried to offer some really sound advice - which she has TOTALLY ignored.
The main thrust of the good advice has been to get other qualifications in fields that would provide job opportunities, and not throw more money at aviation bolt-on bull**** ‘qualifications’ which won’t help land that first flying job. Even now, she says she is going to renew her Instrument Rating -despite being told 200 hour CPLs don’t get gigs flying IFR twins.Then she says she will blow more on a Helicopter PPL. She would be better off buying a bloody drone, which at least could develop skills far more likely to be in demand in the future.
OTOH Cosmic Virgin is a troll, though he/she meant Galactic, not Atlantic...

I think it's safe to say the original poster is trolling- However the thread has served to bring out some really great advice that will be read by thousands of aspiring pilots, students, fresh CPLs in the future. I know when I started out, Pprune was helpful in removing my rose-tinted glasses and adopt a more realistic view on the industry that flight schools with an agenda just weren't providing.

I only mentioned the Instrument renewal because I was told by an instructor that an employer likes to see a few renewals on my resume. I do not want to spend more money than what I have to of course and spent too much already with already too much debt. The helicopter licence is not something I want to do but I have read a few peoples responses here that say to get as many qualifications on the resume as possible to help get the first job. I was thinking helicopter or air traffic control apprenticeship. I am getting sick and tired of the insults to be honest. Okay so I am "scatterbrained" and I'm in my 20s and I don't know what I am doing so I come here to the forum and ask. Like I am sorry if this offends some people but I am only asking and please stop with all of the abusive & insulting personal messages.

I have read all of the advice and some people have given me some really good advice. I have been to the north and looked around and I plan on returning. I am only new around here but I sense a big bullying culture on here - like being at school as a new kid. A few people want to take it upon themselves to attack me or shame me with insults.

No I of course don't want to spend any more money but I don't know what else to do to build my resume. I thought of helicopter and I saw recently air traffic controller traineeship on the Air Services website. I'm looking at all of my possible options.

There is no bullying culture on this site, Petra - in fact, the community will often pull up anyone who makes ad hominem posts against others.

However, if one asks for advice and then throws the time and good will others spent to dispense their hard-earned experience back in their faces, one should at the very least expect some negative feedback. Self-awareness and resilience are key to success in life.

On the off-chance you're not a troll, I'd advise looking at a flying career in the RAAF or Navy.

:D:D:D

Can't get your civilian career to kick off? Just become an ADF pilot - it's that easy.

Petra, I think you should skip the PPL-H and just go all in on a CPL-H. Being dual hatted would be an asset to any business.

I was in a very similar spot in 2008 when I got my CPL. It was just as the GFC hit and there were no jobs for a very long time. I didn't land my first GA job til 2010 and it was very tough to stay motivated.

I got offered a couple of "jobs" that were really work for free as you were paid per hour to fly (which was only 3 or 4 hours weekly) but the rest of the week you were expected to work in the office or hangar for no pay.

I kept my medical and IR current and would fly an hour a month (sometimes two) just to stay in practice. I didn't buy any 206 time or do an instructor rating. The persistence paid off but not before 3 people I trained with had already given up.

Avaitiaon is a marathon not a sprint so stop being in such a rush.
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Clearly wasn't the implication hence the use of the phrase "look into" and not "Just become". Quite familiar with the competitive level required to join the Pilot stream in the ADF, not sure why this would preclude it being suggested to anyone looking for career guidance.

I see too many warning signs for any future employers.

Yep, the helicopter job market is heating up. Get the CPL-H, IR-MEH , S92 type rating and move to Perth and you'll be on the employment radar for a co-pilot job. They all start on about $100K/year + super for 28/28 with 42 days annual leave. Not a bad entry level gig for working 20 weeks per year with 32 weeks of paid field/tour/annual leave.

What is the relevance of a PPL-H in all of this?

^^she said, to build her resume^^ (post #76)

Well Petra, I hope that you will set matters straight. You imply by quoting me that I have sent you abusive and insulting personal messages, when I have never messaged you, and would not be so stupid in this litigious age! Take note of what I am saying...
More free advice if you want to make it in aviation: Do not trot out the 'bullying' card every time you cop negative comment. Airline pilots get checked multiple times every year, and in particular, make mistakes in their early years. Most checks draw criticism - usually justified, sometimes not, but you'd be wise to suck it up and learn from it. You may not have had much criticism while you were spending your money down at your ever-so-friendly flying school; probably much praise and many gold stars to stick on the fridge for your good work.
Learn to sift genuine advice based on experience from advice by that same flying school or anyone else with an agenda. For example, what is the relevance of several IR renewals on your resume when you will NOT be considered for an IFR job at your level of experience? Why not save this for when you are in a flying job and better able to afford upgrading qualifications?
PS: I apologise for the ‘scatterbrained’ slur, if you see it as such. The way you have been throwing money at training contrary to good advice suggests ‘impetuous’ or ‘profligate’ is more appropriate.
PPS: I was being serious about drones - they are the future, but that’s a whole other subject...