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Sunfish 10th Jul 2020 02:38

Avalon Class E Airspace To Go?
 
The Avalon Airspace review recommended the removal of E over YMAV. Looks like Bloggs gets his wish. So much for GA scenics. If we are lucky, we might get a coastal corridor, although that will probably be forbidden to RAA aircraft. More importantly, in marginal VFR weather, the You Yangs were a great landmark for arrivals from the west. and you could pass them on your left as you prepared to join the coastal track for YMMB. That sounds like it’s gone too.

‘’It appears that the airlines and airport operators always howl for controlled airspace and they always get it.

LexAir 10th Jul 2020 05:46

The RMIT won't be happy about that.

Mr Approach 11th Jul 2020 02:27

The E was always inapprpriate and probably instituted by DIRD/CASA and Airservices to bring disrepute on the class of airspace.
Class D under tower control would have enabled use by smaller aircraft but positioned by the controllers where they did not impede the departure and arrival of IFR aircraft.
Unfortunately Airservices operates it as though it was a high volume airport such as Tulla, when in fact it is quieter than Moorabbin on the other side of the bay. This means that radar control will continue even though it is very inefficient for such aerodromes.
This is probably because the Melbourne Centre ATC chiefs have very little experience with Class D airports, unlike Brisbane Centre where they operate with four Class Ds and 2 Class Cs.

Ex FSO GRIFFO 11th Jul 2020 07:51

Now tell me......isn't the name 'Airservices Australia' ?

Sounds more like 'AsA Qld' and 'AsA Vic'.......Sorta like 'ALDI'.....Good (?) but different.......

No cheers....

Awol57 11th Jul 2020 09:27


Originally Posted by Mr Approach (Post 10834280)
This is probably because the Melbourne Centre ATC chiefs have very little experience with Class D airports, unlike Brisbane Centre where they operate with four Class Ds and 2 Class Cs.

I don't know much about this bit of airspace but pretty sure ML CEN looks after Karratha, Alice Springs, Albury, Launceston, Hobart and Avalon which are all Class D? (excluding the old GAAP/Metro D towers as well).

Capn Bloggs 11th Jul 2020 12:41


The E was always inapprpriate and probably instituted by DIRD/CASA and Airservices to bring disrepute on the class of airspace.
and then

Class D under tower control would have enabled use by smaller aircraft but positioned by the controllers where they did not impede the departure and arrival of IFR aircraft.
Completely non-sensical...

Bodie1 11th Jul 2020 13:53

Class E over the top of AV is sweet as a nut. It does exactly as it's meant to. Gives VFR the flexibility to transit whilst separating IFR. Granted, the workload is high a lot of the time for the ATC but they do a cracking job of it. It actually works very well.


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