The management of IAA have, indeed, attempted to contract out some of the training. I doubt any of the operators approached will take up the offer in this current climate.

She’ll be right mate, they have a couple of DA42s & a clapped out old Duchess. If they do it like the NVFR, anyone with a MECIR will be able to train them.

Before COVID they planned to have 600 students training in Mildura by now, so they must have something up their sleeve.

Rather than grow one school they bought four presumably to get around CAAC student number limits for the first year. Doesn’t sound like a long-term plan, a school that size would need a lot of senior instructors with ME & IFR training, Flight Examiners too, where were all the staff coming from?

The whole thing seems a bit odd, maybe there is nothing up their sleeves and the original plan never included being in business this long.

Maybe the linked in the ABC news reports to embezzlement and maybe there is more to this than a flying school

Parking money out of reach of the CCP and or immigration motives?

Four Schools?
 

You're saying they bought 4 Schools. Can you name these schools please?

Thanks Staffypilot. Had found all except Clamback & Hennesy. Had found the other 3. IAA is the registered holder of 48 planes but Pearson, Aero Dynamic Flight Academy and Air Queensland are listed as the Operators. Have not seen any flights with regos relating to Clamback & Hennesy. Time for some more searching. Have found one IAA Skyhawk listed for sale. It's difficult getting any concrete facts about IAA.

Sounds like abfabaus might be one of the narcissistic fruitloops that frequents this place from the Residents Against Pesky Flying Schools facebook page.

Sorry to disappoint Strainer. No narcissism and no Pesky Planes. After facts, not gossip

I agree 100%. Absolute fruitloops the lot of them, group filled with bunch of racists who have no clue about what they are on about.

Fruitloops would be a compliment to them, at one stage they were accusing IAA and FTA of spraying local crops with COVID 19 to help spread the Chinese made disease.

That accusation was answered in about three seconds flat. Strainer must’ve been over the target.

Well the MRCC approved the additional $$ for the ILS at a meeting this week.
Would you believe it is proposed to be on runway 09 and not 27.

The prevailing wind at MQL is from the W/SW and runway 27 is used around 90% of the time by the RPT operators due to the wind. An ILS on 09 would not be any advantage when there is fog, as in the early morning you would be landing into the sun which is not very conducive to making the most out of what visibility there may be. As a result of this decision it seems that the installation of the ILS is for the prime benefit of the flying school training operations and not for assisting RPT and other operators to land when the weather is poor such as in a dust storm which occur when there is a wind from the W or SW.
Having an ILS on 09 will by its nature and use by the flying school generate traffic issues in the circuit and cause delays to other operators. The additional time for a backtrack for a departure 09 or to wait for a gap in the traffic for enter and backtrack for a 27 departure will be a significant inconvenience and cost to the RPT operators especially.

Where is the common sense in this equation?

One has also have to ask what the value of an ILS will be over its expected life. The new runway at the Sunshine Coast is jet capable and does not have an ILS, but GPS based approaches that everyone seems happy about. Why cant the proponents of this waste of money think into the future and consider something similar and spend the money more wisely?

One must also ask what or who is driving this proposal.......

See also: https://www.pprune.org/australia-new...wrong-way.html

The future is overseas airline cadets and they must train on an ILS.

As widespread as you think it may be, JFK, Heathrow and LAX etc are all still ILS and will be for a long time due to Cat 2 and 3 approval.

Which only goes to show that the ILS is there for the school and not to assist others landing when the weather is poor!

I don't disagree but someone had said the ILS is redundant now because of GNSS.

Hi guys :) its me !!
First of all not racist, couldn't care less what race is flying the planes. But definitely are heading towards the fruitloop status from the constant noise pollution.
We only started the page because we were fed up with the constant drone, but seem to have uncovered a myriad of illegal and unsafe practices, and mind-blowing incidents that certainly make me want to sell up our family land and move far away.
I am collating as much information as possible (and learning a lot about the aviation industry as I go!) so if there is anyone who would like to get anything off their chest please let me know. Happy for you to remain anonymous, as I have lots of whistleblowers currently. I would particularly welcome actual documentation or photos. For example, if you submitted a report about tail strikes, but nothing was done about it, please send me the details. You can find me on the Facebook page or group.
Please no negative attacks on me, this has all been too much for my mental health as it is.
Im after facts, not rumours. I am sorting fact from fiction.

The obvious choice for an ILS would be 27 for all the reasons previously mentioned and of course most of the inbound RPT and Air Ambulance traffic is from the south east. But I can’t help wondering if the Airport management, Board and MRCC councillors are confused as to the actual approach direction for the proposed ILS. Most of them probably have no idea what an ILS is or what 09 or 27 mean. If it was planned for 27 the Localiser antenna would be at the 09 end where they own more land beyond the airport boundary, the 27 threshold is closer to the road and land they don’t own. Maybe they don’t understand their own plans.

I imagine the aerodrome was there before you were...

Have you ever flown in a jet airliner?

Talking sense to the fruitloops doesn't work :ugh:

Re the proposed MQL ILS. Further discussion on another thread:
https://www.pprune.org/australia-new...wrong-way.html

Pretty much over the whole "dont live near an airport and then complain about the noise" comment.
Your so far off the mark and ill informed ...
but thanks for your input.

Well that's lovely of you, thanks for your feedback.

I just received an email from "anonymous reporter" about this place, including attachments of someone's licence. I don't really know anything about this place other than what I have read here, so I have no idea why they contacted ,me or where they got my email address from unless they painstakingly googled every single flying school in the country. The email is written by someone who doesn't seem to have English as a first language, the grammar standard is not something you would expect even from a journalist.

I don't take any notice of anonymous stuff, if you are too cowardly to give me your name and send a bulk email starting with Good day (which is only very slightly less bad than Dear Sir) then you go in the deleted items.

Did anyone else here get one of these?

Edit when I emailed back to ask who the sender was and why they were sending me this stuff the email bounced, apparently the email it came from doesn't exist.

It's "you're", in this context. And given the airport was there in 1929, I think you're going to have a hard time convincing anyone you were there first.

Got the same email today, can confirm this is true. I had two mates that use to work there and left within 2 weeks of starting. They've obviously sent the email anonymously to protect their identity. You know how the Chinese are

Saw the email. Damning allegations.

The author of that damning email uses the collective 'we', so presumably more than one person is prepared to back up the allegations. They should go to the Australian Government whistleblower site where they can remain anonymous. Piss, or get off the pot.
Writing direct to CASA and circulating to the likes of me is unlikely to get a result, because frankly my dear, I don't give a damn what some cowboy training mob out in the desert does. I suspect CASA takes a similar position when it comes to training of foreign students. I won't be flying on any airline that employs these graduates, and CASA takes little interest in foreign carrier standards.

That was very silly sending to it all of those emails. The best thing would’ve been to post on here

Posting stuff here is not worth a c%*t full of cold water, other than to provide entertainment and to allow some to let off steam.
If they are serious they will take it to the appropriate whistleblower authority, which in turn could require CASA to investigate and report back. Then, if the allegations are founded on fact, the company could be de-registered or otherwise penalised.
But it is very poor form to include everyone's email in a mass mail-out without permission of each recipient. If I really could give a damn I would go after them for including my address.

CASA has been notified of their wrongdoings. Looks like a slap on the wrist, any other schoosl which would do this would be shut down. Money talks!

Agreed, it is not hard to hide the other emails, but it does look like it was copied and pasted with very little word processing skills.

The “anonymous Reporter” is obviously out to discredit IAA/AAA but in particular goes after one individual. Many others have told similar stories about this person’s behaviour so it is unlikely that the email stems from a personal conflict between two people.

With the evidence provided CASA will surely have to take another look at the safety of this operation. The Author must work there or have worked there recently.

It is very sad many new instructors had their first flying job at IAA only to have their expectations of this professional world shattered.

I Like most, only lasted 6 months and left as soon as I could Only did around 140 hours in that time...more ground school and bus driving than I could throw a stick at. There are far better places to go if you want to work in a sausage factory. I’ve done just under 800 hours in the year since I left at my new school, if it survives COVID, I will be staying here as 100% happier. There are problems at every school you go...but IAA has a number of major issues...lack of safety and compliance Are just two of them. Stay away and stay safe...good luck getting your next gig.

From instructors who work or have worked there I've heard that there is a one section of the company that operates under a separate Air Operators Certificate and has a different Head of Operations. They say that company is actually a good place to work and resembles nothing of the bigger messier AOC. The guy who runs that AOC has much more experience. Some of those who've left said they asked for transfers as they are all under the IAA parent company however that was declined. Would have considered staying on if that was the case. Think one of the long term plans is for one of the AOCs to move to Swan Hill.

Please don’t move to Swan Hill! I love that place and the Mid Murray Flyers! Always good for a cuppa and a chat after refuelling. Please don’t spoil it.

Are you able to upload it here? That’ll be great ayyeeee!

I guess if the author wanted it published here they would have posted it here.

It could have opened up the forum to legal headaches, so I'm not going to post it here either.

Send the email to me I’ll post it.

No..the mods would probably take it down anyway...read this https://www.pprune.org/faq.php?faq=p...ne_rules_rules

IF the substance of the email in question as well as the response to it are to be taken as true then it speaks volumes about the workplace culture of this particular organisation - which is being frequently reported in a somewhat unsavoury light.

In a high stress, high performance and hazardous environment bullying and any behaviours that add to the stress load of instructors is potentially lethal, can and will seriously damage your brand and reputation.

ANYONE who fosters and facilitates such an environment is, in my view, culpable for any negative outcomes that come about - for firstly not creating a means for personnel to air their grievances and for failing to emphasise HR policy on workplace bullying.

I have a great deal of experience with corporate governance, HR policies as well as Safety Management Systems and the just culture element that is meant to underpin their use. Unless there is evidence of repeated negligence as per a written policy statement in your ops manual aligned with annual performance KPIs set at the beginning of each year, there is NO dotted or hard reporting line between HR the Safety Manager and the HOO.

It's advisable to submit senior personnel in leadership roles such as HOO/Dep HOO and Safety manager for appropriate training and ensure that ALL personnel are on-boarded and understand that there are appropriate standards of behaviour that are expected in any Australian workplace. Anyone breaching these standards needs to be counselled and as necessary disciplined. Not doing so opens you and your organisation up to potential legal consequences and worse - people have died in workplaces as a result of workplace bullying and personally I have no patience for it. If employees lash out in anonymous forums then perhaps the issue is not with the accuser but rather with an environment in which they don't feel confident in airing their grievances and being heard - isn't that the essence of the Aussie fair go?

Well said. Totally agree. When the Mildura organisation was first established all of what you suggest as appropriate was contemplated by the then Australian management team but it all went out the window as the Chinese management progressively pushed out the highly experienced operators.