Large aircraft to private strips
 

How can an aircraft of greater than 5700kg operate IFR into a dirt strip without instrument approaches, when by definition an "adequate aerodrome" requires at least 1 authorised approach and meteorological forecasts.?

Grizzly,

Why are you concerned with "adequate" aerodromes? Yes you need an adequate aerodrome available within 60min if your not EDTO authorised but the destination doesn't need to be adequate.? You clearly need an alternate though. CAO 82.5 describes some limitations for AOC holders of high capacity ops. If the operation was at night then an instrument approach is required but not by day. Also if a turbo jet (probably not likely if the strip is gravel) you need PAPI or other electronic vertical guidance. I don't think Low Capacity RPT (CAO 82.3) requires instrument approaches available for night ops. Anyway what aircraft and type of operation are you talking about?

AWK Ops such as Air Ambo's proceed VFR (if possible)into such dromes without App's

The purpose of the Instrument approach requirement is about obstacle clearance data to provide a circling area and approach path (splays) which does not exist at those aerodromes without an approach. Not so much about navigation. A good time to reiterate, simply because the NGT VFR rules say descent below LSALT within 3 miles, does not necessarily mean it is safe to do so with respect to obstacle clearance.

This is definitely NOT true.

Generally you will need a Flight Manual supplement with dirt field Ops approved, you need the company Operations Manual to explain and approve such operations and you would not operate into these places without a suitable alternate aerodrome.

Good topic though

Maybe you mean fly in VMC under the IFR?

What 5,700kg + aircraft are we talking about? (Plenty of RFDS aircraft go into and out of strips without instrument approaches but, as far as I am aware, PC12s and Kingairs are not 5,700kg + aircraft.)

B350s are >5700

Thanks cs. I’ve learnt something. Do any of the RFDSs operate them?

The 200 can be if the relevant STC is incorporated, raises the maximum take-off weight from 12,500 to 13,420. Some Oz operators have incorporated the STC and fly single pilot in the EMS role.

King Air Maximum Aircraft Take-Off Gross Weight Increase

RFDS in QLD and NSW operate B350’s. Of course WA and Central Operations have PC24’s which are over 5700kg

Did it for 10 years, all us pilots must have broken the rules (yr rules) thousands of times!

Thanks for all those who educated me on the 5,700kg + aircraft that engage in ‘flying doctor’-type operations. I suppose that means the OP’s question remains unanswered...

the Packers' jets into Newcastle Waters...?

Probably not. James Packer sold the property to private equity about ten years ago.

Lead Balloon, This is because the OP's question is not clear, what does an adequate have to do with dirt strips

OK. Forget “dirt strips”.

Walk me through how a 5,700kg + aircraft engaged in ‘commercial’ operations - e.g. aerial work - is legally able to land somewhere that does not have an instrument approach.

There never has been a requirement. There are additional requirements for example an alternate, for different classes of operation. Are you going down the path of surveyed obstacle clearance gradients data for high capacity operations (guaranteed one engine out performance) at an aerodrome with no approach procedure.

So Grizzly has his answer.

No problems, as long as it’s daytime.

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