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IFEZ 14th Jan 2020 03:29

Hey Dangly - did it have a 'For Sale' sign on it..? :E

Ixixly 14th Jan 2020 03:30


Originally Posted by IFEZ (Post 10662300)
Hey Dangly - did it have a 'For Sale' sign on it..? :E

Or perhaps a "Police Aware" sign that they know it's been abandoned? :P

Dangly Bits 14th Jan 2020 03:49

I would put a for sale sign on it but I have to assume it is parked right by his office window so he can look at it all day!

machtuk 14th Jan 2020 04:47

Australia the lucky country, if you have criminal intentions and the ability to con people! We are not known to be too bright in some sectors of business!

The name is Porter 14th Jan 2020 06:04


Porter, his white Porsche SUV was out the front when I drove past about 2 hours ago.
If that's the case, I wonder if there's any moves by his 'equity partners' to restrict his movements?

The name is Porter 14th Jan 2020 06:09


Australia the lucky country, if you have criminal intentions and the ability to con people! We are not known to be too bright in some sectors of business!
Watching a doco on telly last night, fraud case. Old mate defrauded 1.5 Mill, caught and sentenced to 36 years prison, if he paid the money back, sentence dropped to 6 years.

Australia, probably the most corrupt and slack 'western democracy's' on the planet. It would give most 3rd world countries a run for their money.

kaz3g 14th Jan 2020 06:41


Originally Posted by mcoates (Post 10662260)
Agreed, put a lein on the planes top try and recover some $$. If Neel has skipped the country to the depths of India, and the planes get sold, there will be nothing left to get anything back in the way of payout.

Students, go to Personal Property Securities Register and register an interest on the planes before it's too late (note: i am not a solicitor and this is not legal advice) but any way you can defeat this clown or slow him down is good in my eyes.

Liens generally require the goods to be in possession. Charges generally require a prior agreement or a court order. What is needed is a restraining order and that can happen once proceedings are instituted.

Squawk7700 14th Jan 2020 07:44

Amazing how many hours they have clocked in those aircraft in a short space of time.

The 2017 Vixen has 1700 hours. That’s less than 3 years. That’s a solid figure, especially when you have 30+ aircraft in the same fleet doing similar hours.


BigPapi 14th Jan 2020 07:54

Does anyone know to what scale Soar is downsizing? How many instructor job losses?

Ixixly 14th Jan 2020 07:55


Originally Posted by Squawk7700 (Post 10662410)
Amazing how many hours they have clocked in those aircraft in a short space of time.

The 2017 Vixen has 1700 hours. That’s less than 3 years. That’s a solid figure, especially when you have 30+ aircraft in the same fleet doing similar hours.

Seeks a bit off doesn't it 7700? Assuming 40 Aircraft (I think they have 50) have done similar hours, so 1700 x 40 that means 68,000hrs, says 402 students that had enrolled in 2018 which means about 169hrs for each student and yet only 6 have graduated. Seems a tad odd right? Also how was none of this detected by the Government prior to the complaint being raised? If only 6 graduated that should have put up all sorts of red flags for an abysmal pass rate!!

The name is Porter 14th Jan 2020 08:37


Sounds a bit off doesn't it 7700? Assuming 40 Aircraft (I think they have 50) have done similar hours, so 1700 x 40 that means 68,000hrs, says 402 students that had enrolled in 2018 which means about 169 hrs for each student and yet only 6 have graduated. Seems a tad odd right?
I would like to see the hours flown to gain an RPC/RPL and how many extra blocks of time the students were bullied into buying out of their own money. Now before you go on about 'the students should stand up for their rights' have a think about the power imbalance that exists. I have seen it, I know what goes on in these environments


Also how was none of this detected by the Government prior to the complaint being raised? If only 6 graduated that should have put up all sorts of red flags for an abysmal pass rate!!
Have a think about any of the major frauds that have been perpetrated in this country and how many of them were 'detected' by Government. Pathetic, corrupt Australia.

I have an ex student dealing with significant mental health issues over this type of bull****, times that by 402 - 6 = 396 Soar Students.

I'm not going to let up on this bull****.

Squawk7700 14th Jan 2020 08:46

There are also regular students outside of the vet-fee system including a regular poster here who saw the light and went elsewhere. You’d have to think that they were the small minority though.

This alleged system of upfront payments for the full 200 hours being required from Box Hill upon enrolment sounds interesting to say the least.

TXU 14th Jan 2020 10:11


Originally Posted by The name is Porter (Post 10662459)

I would like to see the hours flown to gain an RPC/RPL and how many extra blocks of time the students were bullied into buying out of their own money. Now before you go on about 'the students should stand up for their rights' have a think about the power imbalance that exists. I have seen it, I know what goes on in these environments



Have a think about any of the major frauds that have been perpetrated in this country and how many of them were 'detected' by Government. Pathetic, corrupt Australia.

I have an ex student dealing with significant mental health issues over this type of bull****, times that by 402 - 6 = 396 Soar Students.

I'm not going to let up on this bull****.



This is exactly what happened.

Delay progress deliberately, dangle the carrot of the next phase/license infront of people and present them with an invoice to allow them to do the flight test to walk away with the license!

Has happened to plenty, some buckled and paid up. Some left and have finished/are in the process of finishing elsewhere at a greater cost out of principle! Most will let them win!

How it's taken this long to unravel so spectacularly is beyond me!

Clare Prop 14th Jan 2020 11:19

One guy on the Pilots Lounge fb page said 100% of the students were on the VET loans.
This corruption geos all the way to the top, see the video with McCormack. "That's what this government is all about...Neel's doing a fantastic job" etc. There is no way that they didn't know what was going on, another massive money laundering exercise using VET loans and vulnerable aviation students with stars in their eyes.
Pride comes before a fall, and putting yourself on the rich list worth 66 million was probably not such a great idea because he can hardly plead bankruptcy three months later...can he?
RA-Aus must have been glad of 950 memberships, too.

I would make an offer for some of those avionics, they are probably worth more than the aircraft.

Okihara 14th Jan 2020 17:01

Probably the work of someone at LTF...
Found here with many other good ones: https://www.instagram.com/moorabbinairport/


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....40a1100252.jpg

Okihara 14th Jan 2020 17:03

Just saying, those Foxbats might well be a real bonanza for Tristar... (no pun intended)

Elfarol99 14th Jan 2020 23:15

So with all this... what happens to the poor students with fees paid up-front and courses un/under-delivered? Are they covered by Box Hill's Tuition Assurance?

Squawk7700 14th Jan 2020 23:46


Originally Posted by Okihara (Post 10662893)
Probably the work of someone at LTF...
Found here with many other good ones: https://www.instagram.com/moorabbinairport/


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....40a1100252.jpg

Half of the Learn To Fly fleet looks to be laid up at Tooradin after off runway landings and whatever else caused an engine to have to be removed.

zanthrus 15th Jan 2020 09:04

Get Neel’s passport cancelled. Both Australian and Indian so that he can’t scuttle back to India. Force him to face the music!

The name is Porter 15th Jan 2020 10:18

Yes, think Puneet Puneet. Still chasing that bastard I think.


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