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Air Fraser
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Has that lost its nose wheel or just sunk?
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If it sunk just hang off the tail and pivot 😉 |
I have heard of tail draggers but this gives real meaning to the expression nose dragger!
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Is there a tide scum, looks like sand and its just dropped over the bank into the creek. Interesting foreground to that pic
Or, as for beach driving .. beware the sand that is loosened by running water. As learnt up remote Cape beaches !! Kerplonk.!..now extricate yourself.... Tide incoming...better hurry . |
Just put two big fat bastards in the rear seats,- get the nose up and stick a 5 gallon drum behind the prop. :D
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That looks like a very strange piece of beach to put an aircraft on. |
Originally Posted by flywatcher
(Post 10652315)
That looks like a very strange piece of beach to put an aircraft on. |
The timid airvan sneaks up the waters edge for drink, always alert for predators... They are at their most vulnerable and would be easy pickings for a hungry Catalina hiding out of site, waiting to strike... |
easy pickings for a hungry Catalina hiding out of site, waiting to strike... |
https://www.atsb.gov.au/publications...r/ao-2020-001/ The ATSB is investigating a runway overrun involving GippsAero GA8, VH-BNX, at Fraser Island, Queensland, on 2 January 2020. During landing, the aircraft overran the runway resulting in the nose landing gear collapsing and the propeller striking the ground. There were no injuries to the pilot or seven passengers. |
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Seven News seems to have got hands of the landing video.
Trying to find it, appeared on my Facebook feed. Certainly floated for a bit. |
https://7news.com.au/news/qld/pilot-...d-c-634847.amp
video there. nice of the owner to publicly throw the pilot under the bus like that too. Sounds like a great place to work. |
Wow. If ever a case of throwing your employee under the bus to save business, this is it. We are awesome, just a pesky bad pilot of ours.
who would want to work for that mob Urgh. |
Well that’s disturbing...
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Sounds fair enough really.
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This operator really doesn't do its pilots or GA in general any favours. What a top notch tool.
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Looks like a strange bit of flap movement there. Not quite pulled into the notch? Or some kind of random "procedure"?
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What on earth are those flaps up to? I had a girlfriend once that couldn’t control hers either...
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The operator doesn’t need to throw the pilot under the bus when the video does it on it’s own.
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Originally Posted by Squawk7700
(Post 10671672)
The operator doesn’t need to throw the pilot under the bus when the video does it on it’s own.
I would be pretty confident in saying that the pilot did not intend that as the outcome for their days flying. So why did that happen? poor training? Poor oversight of standards? Boss man said standards weren’t adhered to by the pilot; but whose job is it to oversee that those standards are maintained hmm? was the area that was picked for landing really suitable or could it have been better? I don’t know the Airvan so I don’t know what was happening with the flaps. A guess (yes speculation) is that the pilot MAY have been trying to lose some lift during a float to help get the plane on the ground. If so, why do that? Who taught them that? Why not go around instead? Is there a culture issue at play? Theres probably more to it than just “100% pilot error” and that they will be “disciplined”. How about a different statement along the lines of “the investigation is ongoing and if required the pilot will undergo some additional training” rather than the publicised vindictive blame. p.s where is the rest of the registration under the wing? Isn’t that a CASR requirement? |
Originally Posted by Squawk7700
(Post 10671672)
The operator doesn’t need to throw the pilot under the bus when the video does it on it’s own.
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Originally Posted by Car RAMROD
(Post 10671680)
p.s where is the rest of the registration under the wing? Isn’t that a CASR requirement?
https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/F2015L02066 yet again the CASA rule writers couldn't get it right and rather than fixing the rule publish an exemption... |
no one, that piece of legislation self cancelled on 03 July 2016. :ugh:
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And they just ditched another one with “rudder failure?”. Fortunately no serious injuries.
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So is that the whole fleet now out of action or they have some more?
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I just saw this on the news. Rudder failure? Unusual reason to ditch one would have thought - especially as the beach looked like being about 100 metres away.
Im guessing stall/spin with recovery too low and not enough energy to do anything but plonk it in the surf. Pure speculation of course. |
Originally Posted by lucille
(Post 10674339)
I just saw this on the news. Rudder failure? Unusual reason to ditch one would have thought - especially as the beach looked like being about 100 metres away.
Im guessing stall/spin with recovery too low and not enough energy to do anything but plonk it in the surf. Pure speculation of course. |
Old Mate Karma seems to have been having a little fun with this one, pilot identified as the same fella quoted in news reports above.
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Originally Posted by spinex
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Old Mate Karma seems to have been having a little fun with this one, pilot identified as the same fella quoted in news reports above.
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Originally Posted by tio540
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investigation complete!
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Originally Posted by Pappa Smurf
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https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....754e6ba923.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....eef16df9b3.jpg tootle pip. |
Haven’t read the stuff for a while, however there are probably a few hooks in the Act that the ATSB operate under as well.
Also throw any insurance claim out the window if the engine was removed without their approval. |
Cessna Ditching
Could there be another reason?
Like nose wheel issue/failure/falling off = rudder jaming issue = fuel supply interference = engine failure = ditching off shore. One pilot noted to be wearing a life jacket as he emerged from the water. |
News article here:
https://amp.9news.com.au/article/88e...6-d971490cf4fd rudder failure and an engine failure, and a ditching. Sheesh what a day of bad luck! |
Before some idiot says it .......... Sorry folks, THIS WILL NOT BUFF OUT !!! :8
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Not with that attitude
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