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Roj approved 2nd Feb 2021 03:49


Originally Posted by lucille (Post 10981353)
Could they not arrange for road transport of the organs to CHC to meet the aircraft as it lands? Makes more sense on every level when you take the constraints that you mention into account. Contrary to popular opinion, crews on Private Ops also suffer from fatigue.

that is not how organ transfer works, its incredible time critical and the whole "operation" is very well orchestrated by the different medical teams.

601 4th Feb 2021 03:13


Could they not arrange for road transport of the organs to CHC to meet the aircraft as it lands?
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Depends where the organs are.
If it is in location other than a major city, the retrieval team travel on the outbound flight and conducts the recovery of the organs which can be up to 6 hours for a heart retrieval.
They then fly back on the aircraft and then do the transplant operation.

If the organs are in a location where the local surgeons have been trained for organ retrieval, you may only have to pickup an esky.


Contrary to popular opinion, crews on Private Ops also suffer from fatigue
Sure, but sleeping on makeshift bed in a spare office at the airport or in the aircraft for 6 hours does reduce the fatigue.


oscar duce 5th Feb 2021 04:15

Its a shame that Queensland Government Air will never be a well-run, efficient, professional, or safe organisation. From an outsider’s perspective you would think that with well paid staff and a seemingly unrestricted budget (compared to the private sector anyway) they would be at the top of the industry.

However, with all management at director level and above having a complete lack of experience, knowledge or even some understanding of how to manage the operation they are seemingly conspiring to destroy the operation due to their complete lack of experience and ability to make simple decisions.

This coupled with a culture of Secrecy, Lies, Narcotism, Bullying, and non-compliance from above, it’s a wonder they are even permitted to operate.

havick 6th Feb 2021 19:07


Originally Posted by MrHughJaynus (Post 10984775)
You nailed it. What a toxic place its become because of directors who are not only incompetent but also there to feed their huge egos - Running joke that they have to tick these boxes to get a director job. Beware anyone thinking of applying for a job at this place. People who used to be proud to work for this government aviation service are now desperate to get out but covid19 has made it challenging to find other work in the industry. Why hasn't the minister, COO, union, CASA stepped in yet to investigate this place when all the signs of incompetence are leading to an unsafe workplace. Why are they turning a blind eye to the staff turnover and people having to take leave to deal with stress, anxiety worry, bullying. I've worked in toxic environments before but QGAIR blows them all out of the water.

Do you have any specific examples of an unsafe workplace? I definitely disagree with other opinions that an in-house govt operation is run better than contracting some parts out. That being said if you’re going to sling mud, make sure you’re specific if you want it to stick.

601 7th Feb 2021 06:45


Why hasn't the minister, COO, union, CASA stepped in yet to investigate this place when all the signs of incompetence are leading to an unsafe workplace.
When you have layer upon layer of managers in what once was just Joh and his pilot, things can spiral out of control..
It has grown and grown, The number of pilots remained pretty well static but the organisation has become top heavy.

megle2 7th Feb 2021 20:22

Huge expansion of management even though there are less pilots and flying. Mixing private jet ops with AOC ops on King Air must be interesting

havick 8th Feb 2021 01:52


Originally Posted by MrHughJaynus (Post 10985168)
Think of human factors and the training we all get in this industry- does a workforce on edge and constantly stressed out sound safe. No trust in toxic management, constant worries about your job and colleagues and effects to mental health are big parts of what leads to distractions that then leads to an unsafe workplace. Picture being at work in any job let alone aviation and needing to focus on your work but your mind is taken over by stress on a daily basis- it's a recipe for errors and mistakes that flow on to other parts of your work and not just in your own space. Think of the swiss cheese holes lining up - safety 101.

That’s vague and generic, not specific examples.

Hamley 8th Feb 2021 13:04


Originally Posted by havick (Post 10985920)
That’s vague and generic, not specific examples.

I’m sure mr Jaynus isn’t naive enough to provide examples specific enough to incriminate himself.

He has offered up a general description. What do you want to know his ARN? His favourite colour?

Ascend Charlie 9th Feb 2021 04:04


This coupled with a culture of Secrecy, Lies, Narcotism, Bullying,
They are all on drugs??? Or auto-correct fixing "nepotism"

440 31st Mar 2021 20:37

Another pilot out the door, they must have virtually zero Hawker pilots left. The toxic environment strikes again.

601 31st Mar 2021 23:50


Another pilot out the door, they must have virtually zero Hawker pilots left. The toxic environment strikes again.
Are you referring to the two who have just retired.
From Hansard


Gavin Turner and John McGee are pilots in the Government Air Wing. Gaven has been in the captain’s seat for 37 years and John for 13½ years. The Government Air Wing’s first job is organ transfer. It is a big state. The pilots can be called upon at any time and in almost any weather to fly these mercy missions. They also fly after monsoons and cyclones. They do a tremendous job. I have always felt safe in the aircraft when Gaven and John are there. I want to wish them all the very best on their retirement and thank them for their service and duty. I know that when they do organ retrievals they love hearing that it has gone well and a life has been saved. There is a reason Queenslanders walk that little bit taller, and that is because of Queenslanders like these.
I wish them both well in their well deserved retirement

Beechedasbro 14th Apr 2021 23:45


Originally Posted by 601 (Post 11020126)
Are you referring to the two who have just retired.

There was a third I believe... I understand he pulled the pin because of new management’s inflexibility with rostering practices which made it untenable for him to continue what had been a good working relationship for a number of years.

Word is that the other two Gents both elected to retire earlier than planned because of toxic management...

Beechedasbro 15th Apr 2021 00:00


Originally Posted by oscar duce (Post 10983860)
Its a shame that Queensland Government Air will never be a well-run, efficient, professional, or safe organisation. From an outsider’s perspective you would think that with well paid staff and a seemingly unrestricted budget (compared to the private sector anyway) they would be at the top of the industry.

However, with all management at director level and above having a complete lack of experience, knowledge or even some understanding of how to manage the operation they are seemingly conspiring to destroy the operation due to their complete lack of experience and ability to make simple decisions.

This coupled with a culture of Secrecy, Lies, Narcotism, Bullying, and non-compliance from above, it’s a wonder they are even permitted to operate.


I reckon you’re pretty much on point OD... except I would say that despite (mis)management’s worst efforts, from what I have seen frontline operational staff and crews are doing good work, and safety is a high priority.

I am guessing too that the purse strings have been pulled tight as a result of the fiscal disaster caused by the pandemic so certainly not an “unrestricted budget” anymore, but you’re point is well made - with knowledgeable management and effective leadership potentially an industry leader!

Grover 20 11th Feb 2022 02:49

Current status of Qld Govt Hawker Jet
 
Does anyone know that the current status of the Hawker Jet? It appears to have been mothballed in the hangar since the middle of last year

oscar duce 12th Feb 2022 08:18


Originally Posted by Grover 20 (Post 11182861)
Does anyone know that the current status of the Hawker Jet? It appears to have been mothballed in the hangar since the middle of last year


Word is has been sitting unused for months and now sold in a completely transparent tender process at a bargain basement price to a US based dealer.

SITTINGBULL 12th Feb 2022 12:55


Originally Posted by oscar duce (Post 11183345)
Word is has been sitting unused for months and now sold in a completely transparent tender process at a bargain basement price to a US based dealer.

Ahhh yes!
These days it's bad press to have crooks and politicians alike caught stepping off a private jet funded by Joe taxpayer.

megle2 13th Feb 2022 05:06

Word is the Premier prefers to charter a jet rather than use the Govt King Air 350 so it’s been a handy charter boost.

Capt Fathom 13th Feb 2022 05:32

Why would you waste taxpayer money on charters when you have the Kingair(s)?

The Premier could hitch a ride on PSK which transverses QLD almost daily. That would give her a chance to chat to the locals! :E

Alice Kiwican 13th Feb 2022 07:16


Originally Posted by Capt Fathom (Post 11183639)
Why would you waste taxpayer money on charters when you have the Kingair(s)?

The Premier could hitch a ride on PSK which transverses QLD almost daily. That would give her a chance to chat to the locals! :E

Why would the Premier want to travel around the state in a Kingair when she can waste taxpayers money chartering a corporate jet?

lucille 13th Feb 2022 22:09

Faster, quieter (inside), minimal vibration etc. etc… And most importantly, sipping Moët in Kingair, just doesn’t cut it.


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