Who made the decision on the ASIC?
 

I have been doing some research to try to find out which Minister or which particular bureaucrat came up with the idea of the ASIC. As most know, an equivalent card is not required in the USA – the home of September 11.

Does anyone know which particular individual or group came up with the requirement and whether they did any type of safety case on it?

Hey the ASIC serves atleast one useful purpose, it really satisfies our inherent Australian bootlicking and authority craving desires.

I'd like to meet the bloke or blokette concerned somewhere private. ASIC is tip of the iceberg. Every time a tradie or a truck driver comes onto a security controlled airport its a total faf requiring the lodgement of a first born child, reams of sensitive information handed over, and a shadow in the form of an ASIC holder who'd rather be somewhere else. Total unmitigated, unnecessary, expensive, intrusive, time and resource wasting CF of biblical proportions. Sick 'em Dick.

I think it was with the Aviation Security Regulations 2005. John Anderson was the Minister from 1998 to 2005, followed by Warren Truss...

It gets even worse IHMO. Have a read of the Av Security Act....slipped in there a couple of years ago? is that yr Flying Licence is now a security document !!!
After 8 months of regurgitating all his past history which they have had for the last 15 years he got his ASIC...but had to go with all the ID stuff he had sent them, to collect it from somewhere else, in person . THREE weeks after it had supposedly been sent .
During this long wait he was advised, altho his PPL is all current, that he cannot fly his a/c without an ASIC.!!
Good grief !!.. there are thousands of pilots like me without an ASIC because I have no need to go to an airfield where RPT/ Security Sensitive area exists.

In his previous battle for an ASIC some lady wrote advising him he could not even TAXY his own aircraft.!

If you do an act considered to be "terrorism" or offences against the Act..there goes both yr licence and yr ASIC.

So why dont make them/ yr LIcence ASIC one and the same, perpetual until you lose it or give it up.
Aww thats right ,....revenue and employment.

To get this card is more onerous and time wasting than getting a passport ffs...the ID document you travel overseas with,!
And you cant use it as an ID. CAsA people do tho, to identify themselves, why not us???

We really are going down the Nationalist Socialist path...little by little = a lot, our rights and liberties are being eroded away by bureuacraps trying to keep themselves in a job.

I had to laugh when given a card by the AFP airport visitor...that said on the back You are the eyes and ears of yr airport, advise any suspicious activity. Thats exactly what the US Govt told aviators there after 9/11.
But in the Land of the Free, the citizen aviator doesnt have to go thru all the BS we do. And every TWO years.

Those that give up some liberties for a little temporary security , deserve neither liberty or security. B Franklin, was it ?

To the ASIC I also say Baaa humbug. But as one of the flock of aviators on this country we ALL need to flatten the bureaucratc fence and escape.
Go Dick, yes, but also every other man/ woman and sheep dog.
A petition to Parliament? ..where we the people are supposed to be heard.
Something has to change. And quick.

...which the Minister and Cabinet approved...

Surely Minister and Cabinet will approve anything if an "expert" slaps the words "safety" and "security" on it enough times.

Ah Yes, Mr Biggles, as an aging toddler it is great to see someone retaining some level of responsibility. However I wonder why the humble passport is no longer a class 'A' document. Finding an 'original' Birth Certificate to prove I is him took me over a month. I am still waiting for my renewal.
Mind you, I have had a nasty security scare. I had a cargo plane loaded with explosives for a mining charter to Port Moresby. They took my yogurt off me (my breakfast) because it was a 'liquid or a gel'. T'was a near thing I tell you. But we arrived safely in the end.

Having had my passport renewal stolen at that very time I could tell you exactly how they did it, but I digress...

I and many others have already voiced our concerns at what a useless and practically ineffectual document this ASIC is. You have our utmost support Dick in naming and shaming the jobsworth that introduced this bogus security measure which doesn't actually do anything.

Only for non commercial operations, it appears by implication that an AVID will suffice. On the CASA website, which directs you to an ASIC application, there is mention of settling for an AVID if one does not require frequent access to a security controlled airport. By implication, an AVID should be good intermittent access to a security controlled airport.

I have recently resumed flying in Oz after a 30 year hiatus, I only have an AVID but have not tested it at a point of entry airport yet. It will be interesting to see if the jobsworthies with fat belts and room temperature IQs will draw their taser on me.

30 years living and flying all over the world and I have only ever encountered the obsessive security as we have here in China. The USA by contrast is relatively relaxed for crew, for pax - not so much. You have to laugh when somewhere like Thargomindah is listed as a security controlled airport thus requiring an ASIC. There are some seriously intellectually challenged people in positions of power when it comes to “security”.

The Youtube video depicting a CASA employee discussing the introduction of the ASIC is pure comedic gold. Well worth a look.