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VH-MLE 2nd Sep 2019 01:51

According to the boss - he'd had 1 previous lesson in a C172...

Clare Prop 2nd Sep 2019 02:22

Yes he said on the tapes that he had flown a 172 before.

Cloudee 2nd Sep 2019 03:04


Originally Posted by VH-MLE (Post 10559602)
Listening to audio extracts of the student, I smell somewhat of a rat here, mainly based on his supposed previous experience...

There was a selfie photo of him in an aircraft with a white pilot shirt complete with epaulette decoration on the ABC news. I presume this photo was not taken on his latest flight.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-09-...dakot/11468580

Hsveight 2nd Sep 2019 03:19

I think we’re it sounds like he says “this is my first lesson” he actually says “this is my third lesson”. Then he later says he’s flown a 172 but hasn’t landed it.

theres also video of the landing on one of the news sites.

rjtjrt 2nd Sep 2019 03:36


Originally Posted by Hsveight (Post 10559652)
I think we’re it sounds like he says “this is my first lesson” he actually says “this is my third lesson”. Then he later says he’s flown a 172 but hasn’t landed it.

theres also video of the landing on one of the news sites.

This news report has a video of the landing (at bottom of report). Actual landing at 1:06 on video.

https://7news.com.au/travel/air-avia...53HNZSmfGdT5xE


Very good landing.

BigPapi 2nd Sep 2019 03:43

7 news also reporting that the emergency took place 20,000ft above the ground! Wow, that's a high performance 152!!

Okihara 2nd Sep 2019 04:08


Originally Posted by BigPapi (Post 10559657)
7 news also reporting that the emergency took place 20,000ft above the ground! Wow, that's a high performance 152!!

Heaps of fun :D
I also love it when the media call it "tarmac".

Manubada 2nd Sep 2019 04:15

Kudos due all round! Great effort by student AND ATC Officer.

Bull at a Gate 2nd Sep 2019 05:29

Smell a rat? What? He poisoned his instructor so he could get some publicity?

Desert Flower 2nd Sep 2019 05:40

Can't be his first solo if there's an instructor in the cockpit with him!

DF.

VH-MLE 2nd Sep 2019 06:17

Bull at a Gate. No, I wasn't suggesting anything like that at all! But actually now that you mention it...

It was more some of what he said on the radio that created the seed of doubt for me regarding this being his first or second flight...

cooperplace 2nd Sep 2019 07:03

The student was probably an aviation geek who'd been practising calls. That would account for his familiarity with some aspects.

RickNRoll 2nd Sep 2019 07:52

He says he is glad he did his homework. He had never landed a plane before.

Bravo Delta 2nd Sep 2019 08:31

I smell a rat.
Not good when I’m asking for a pay rise. Got to be a set up.

Icarus2001 2nd Sep 2019 08:36

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-09-...g-him/11471140

ABC now reporting it was his THIRD lesson. I am still not convinced.

kaz3g 2nd Sep 2019 08:49


Originally Posted by BigPapi (Post 10559657)
7 news also reporting that the emergency took place 20,000ft above the ground! Wow, that's a high performance 152!!

Yes..and their headline talked about a “panicked” student.

it seems tome he never panicked at any stage.

kaz3g 2nd Sep 2019 08:59


sms777 2nd Sep 2019 09:56


Originally Posted by kaz3g (Post 10559804)

DF.
I think he does qualify for his first solo when his instrructor passes out so he is on his own. He has done a damn good job getting himself and his instructor down safe and by looking at the video.....he has done it before....Up to you experts.

machtuk 2nd Sep 2019 11:24

It's pretty obvious he's not a complete novice doing something like a TIF but never the less he was calm enough to string it all together -:)

VH-MLE 2nd Sep 2019 11:38

Geoffrey, are you listening/reading?

Saintly 2nd Sep 2019 12:40

Just glad all ended up ok and hope the instructor is ok. Great work from the ATC and the student pilot did a great job.

That's the sort of stuff you see in movies isn't it.

junior.VH-LFA 2nd Sep 2019 14:20

Pretty clear some of you are severely out of touch with the quality of at home simulators that exist these days, something that a lot of people in aviation have been toying with long before they make it to a flying school. I find it unremarkable in concept that someone with no flying experience could land an aeroplane after a couple of hours on a computer.

Doing it under pressure when you're instructor is leaning on you unconscious is a feat though.

Okihara 2nd Sep 2019 15:11

– Nervous?

Yes.

– First time?

No. I've been nervous before.

james ozzie 2nd Sep 2019 22:26

It was interesting to hear the ground instructor (Malcolm) cutting off the students request to fly another practise approach. I can remember my own learning days when flying circuits for up to an hour and feeling REALLY tired at the end of that period. I think Malcolm sensed fatigue and stress degrading the flying skills plus the unknown condition of the instructor added up to no further overall benefit in practising.

Good risk management, I thought.

Rodney Rotorslap 2nd Sep 2019 23:02

An excellent outcome but it was difficult not thinking of this ...


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....8eed263727.jpg

Squawk7700 2nd Sep 2019 23:15


Originally Posted by james ozzie (Post 10560423)

Good risk management, I thought.

Either that or they knew he was running low on fuel :-)

Capt Fathom 3rd Sep 2019 00:05


Either that or they knew he was running low on fuel :-)
Maybe running out of limelight! :E

cooperplace 3rd Sep 2019 06:51


Originally Posted by Squawk7700 (Post 10560453)


Either that or they knew he was running low on fuel :-)



At one point the ground instructor or ATC said it had 4 hrs fuel left, I think. Darn good thing it was a C152, lots of planes are much trickier to land. Student and controller both did a great job.

megan 3rd Sep 2019 23:16

Thought his landing was equal to the most skilful pilot on his best day. Well done sir. :ok:

Squawk7700 4th Sep 2019 00:11

His radio work was better than 75% of the students at Moorabbin.

Ascend Charlie 4th Sep 2019 03:14

"How he survived is a miracle!"
"Oh, so Howie survived?"
"No, we lost Howie..."
"Over Macho Grande?"
"No, I don't think I'll ever get over Macho Grande..."

zanthrus 4th Sep 2019 07:16

AC that quote is comedy GOLD! 😂

Okihara 4th Sep 2019 11:45


Originally Posted by Squawk7700 (Post 10561291)
His radio work was better than 75% of the students at Moorabbin.

Likewise for ATC.

Fantome 11th Sep 2019 21:42

any info as to what it was incapacitated the PIC?

WanderingJack 1st Oct 2019 12:19

Media update tonight the PIC has just had surgery for a benign brain tumour, which has put an end to his flying days, but at least he's OK. Guess it could have been worse if the student pilot, with expert guidance from the instructor in the tower, didn't accomplish the safe landing. Sorry can't post url but if you google 9news it's there complete with video footage.

Rated De 1st Oct 2019 21:50


Originally Posted by Ascend Charlie (Post 10561355)
"How he survived is a miracle!"
"Oh, so Howie survived?"
"No, we lost Howie..."
"Over Macho Grande?"
"No, I don't think I'll ever get over Macho Grande..."

Brilliant..

Squawk7700 2nd Oct 2019 05:17


Poor fellow had a brain tumor.

Was bleeding from the mouth. Ouch!

https://www.9news.com.au/national/st...0-c21b5916b713

Lead Balloon 2nd Oct 2019 05:39

Just goes to show you what medical certificates mean: very little.

Lots of holders of class 1 medicals suffer sudden incapacitation as a consequence of medical conditions.


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