I'd say in terms of his medical certificate, he's gonna have to fight very hard and very long now to prove his innocence.
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Originally Posted by BigPapi
(Post 10559109)
I'd say in terms of his medical certificate, he's gonna have to fight very hard and very long now to prove his innocence.
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Guilty until innocence is proven.
He will now need to prove +100 % he is medically fit and it can NEVER happen again - a bit like getting your virginity back. |
Originally Posted by Bend alot
(Post 10559172)
Guilty until innocence is proven.
He will now need to prove +100 % he is medically fit and it can NEVER happen again - a bit like getting your virginity back. If an artery is blocked for example and a stent goes in or a full bypass operation, problem solved, probably get back your medical. If you've got a condition that causes your heart to go crazy when you have too many coffees and is un-treatable, then you likely aren't getting it back again. |
Originally Posted by NumptyAussie
(Post 10559168)
I don't quite understand what you mean by innocence? Would it be possible to please clarify what you mean? Thank you.
I imagine he's going to have to work very hard to prove that this won't happen again. |
Squawk7700 - absolutely, and know of similar stories of successful treatments with positive outcomes from AVMED. However, in this case, the guy did pass out at the controls of a small aircraft, whilst acting in the capacity of an instructor. Whilst I wish him no impediment post whatever treatment is deemed necessary, and to those already bashing AVMED, FFS AVMED is supposed to minimise the risk of CPLs passing out at the controls, aren’t they? Those bastards! |
According to his LinkedIn he had only been instructing for less than a month after a midlife career change. Pretty brutal it might be a much shorter and more expensive exercise than he imagined but from today he’s lucky to be alive. Hopefully his condition can be properly treated but at the end of the day these events are the primary reason AVMED exists. You can’t have pilots prone to collapsing mid-flight. |
Amazing effort by ATC. Just a classy effort all round.
An aside, I for the life of me can't understand the AVMED bashing at it pertains to this thread. |
If it was a heart issue, it can be sorted out with CASA, eventually. If it was some sort of seizure, or brain related, he will be in for a fight. |
Just listened to the ATC recordings. Wow - just wow.
That recording could be held up as a demonstration of rising to the occasion and clear communication. As someone else said, he'd make a great flight instructor. It's easy to forget what a huge skill set the guys and girls in ATC have. A complete professional. |
I was wondering whether a flight instructor might have been seconded to the Tower to assist in communications with the pilot? |
I believe the controller holds a pilot licence and there was an instructor present. Couldn't have hoped for a better outcome really.
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The controller is a gem. There was an instructor present who talked once or twice to the student but the controller did most of it. |
A couple of points regarding the audio recording:
1. Communication is key: The student pilot luckily spoke and understood English natively which is not always the case with student pilots who start their flight training in Australia. He also had some prior knowledge of flying and associated lingo, and he could orientate himself around Jandakot*, all of which helped him understand the controller. By his own account, he tuned in TWR frequency by himself. I surmise that the clear communication was a calming factor to both himself and the controller. 2. It's surprising to hear all these other calls while an emergency is unfolding. * Just imagine the same situation at Moorabbin: TWR: Can you see GMH on your right side? Student: !!? |
Originally Posted by Okihara
(Post 10559509)
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2. It's surprising to hear all these other calls while an emergency is unfolding.... |
It was clear that the ATC was a better communicator in that situation so I was glad to hear that he ended up taking over from the instructor. Off-Air, we’ll keep him up there for an hour whilst we get in every known emergency service and the flying doctors and anyone that can come! |
Listening to audio extracts of the student, I smell somewhat of a rat here, mainly based on his supposed previous experience... |
Originally Posted by Squawk7700
(Post 10559593)
It was clear that the ATC was a better communicator in that situation so I was glad to hear that he ended up taking over from the instructor. |
I smell somewhat of a rat here, mainly based on his supposed previous experience... |
Originally Posted by VH-MLE
(Post 10559602)
Listening to audio extracts of the student, I smell somewhat of a rat here, mainly based on his supposed previous experience... |
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