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-   -   Cessna 210 Accident Mt ISA (https://www.pprune.org/pacific-general-aviation-questions/621922-cessna-210-accident-mt-isa.html)

Hasherucf 26th May 2019 10:36
Cessna 210 Accident Mt ISA
 
Cessna 210

Anyone know the rego ?

wishiwasupthere 26th May 2019 10:59
I don’t want to put the rego here in case i’m wrong, but flightaware shows a C210 that’s been operating out of Mount Isa over the past week. Based on the registered operator, probably doing mag survey.

RatsoreA 26th May 2019 12:22
There is actually two of them there, both 210s I think, doing survey work, I was chatting to them a few days ago... very sad. One I think was SUX but I can't remember what the other was...

Fly safe.

Mister Warning 27th May 2019 08:33
Confirmed in media VH-SUX.
Sadly 2 POB and 2 fatalities.

RatsoreA 31st May 2019 21:38
Early rumour say it may have shed a wing... :sad:

Ixixly 7th Jun 2019 04:20
https://www.atsb.gov.au/newsroom/new...nV0T3Dzyd6gjYI

In-Flight wing seperation seems to be pretty much confirmed. 12,000hrs but that's not a heck of a lot for a C210!

RIP and condolences to all those affected.

Josh Cox 7th Jun 2019 22:32
Well done ATSB.

Hugh Mungus 9th Jun 2019 02:46
Originally Posted by Josh Cox (Post 10488967)
Well done ATSB.
Hmmmm Wing seperation Im surprised nobody has mentioned SIDs was the Inspection done and by whom ?

Eddie Dean 9th Jun 2019 03:07
Originally Posted by Hugh Mungus (Post 10489577)

Hmmmm Wing seperation Im surprised nobody has mentioned SIDs was the Inspection done and by whom ?
Good point Hugh, will be interesting should this section be part of single engine SIDS criteria.

B772 9th Jun 2019 04:32
Would the installation of wing tip fuel tanks had an impact ?

DUXNUTZ 9th Jun 2019 04:45
Originally Posted by Ixixly (Post 10488305)
https://www.atsb.gov.au/newsroom/new...nV0T3Dzyd6gjYI

In-Flight wing seperation seems to be pretty much confirmed. 12,000hrs but that's not a heck of a lot for a C210!

RIP and condolences to all those affected.
i remember years ago some of the ex-Airnorth ones had somewhere close to 20k. Wonder if IDZ is still flying?

Bend alot 9th Jun 2019 05:07
Originally Posted by Hugh Mungus (Post 10489577)

Hmmmm Wing seperation Im surprised nobody has mentioned SIDs was the Inspection done and by whom ?
The single engine Cessna SID's program (yes has spar/wing inspection requirements) is for non modified aircraft.

That does not mean Supplementary Inspection Documents are not applicable to modified aircraft - just the ones produced by Cessna are not applicable.

I assume an IO-550 with a Black Mac, tip tanks and a stinger would be some of the modifications incorporated.

Buswinker 9th Jun 2019 06:13
Originally Posted by DUXNUTZ (Post 10489604)


i remember years ago some of the ex-Airnorth ones had somewhere close to 20k. Wonder if IDZ is still flying?
the reg is certainly still in use, and attached to a 210

Hjane 9th Jun 2019 11:55
Is this not something serious enough that all 210’s should be grounded till they find out if this was from a unique failure to this aircraft? Plenty of 210’s out there with at least that many hours and it would have had sids it’s doing commercial operations.

plotplot 9th Jun 2019 14:16
Originally Posted by DUXNUTZ (Post 10489604)


i remember years ago some of the ex-Airnorth ones had somewhere close to 20k. Wonder if IDZ is still flying?
She certainly is, and flying well, IFR and all.

Only 12,000 hours but 6000 of those have been smashing around at low level doing surveys. Seems like a lot of punishment on those spars.

Bend alot 9th Jun 2019 20:49
Originally Posted by Hjane (Post 10489793)
Is this not something serious enough that all 210’s should be grounded till they find out if this was from a unique failure to this aircraft? Plenty of 210’s out there with at least that many hours and it would have had sids it’s doing commercial operations.
The aircraft in question had been modified,possibly more relevant is that the wings had been modified - not by Cessna, so the Cessna SID's are not applicable.

Global Aviator 10th Jun 2019 03:46
Many hours in many 210’s. What was the last model built the R? 1986 (yes to lazy to Google...).

Fact is any 210 flying is a minimum of 25 years old and more realistically 30-40+++.

Just like many others... wing separation no matter what type is scary... as a pilot unless your in a Cirrus you are FARKED!

ironbutt57 10th Jun 2019 04:30
Originally Posted by Global Aviator (Post 10490243)
Many hours in many 210’s. What was the last model built the R? 1986 (yes to lazy to Google...).

Fact is any 210 flying is a minimum of 25 years old and more realistically 30-40+++.

Just like many others... wing separation no matter what type is scary... as a pilot unless your in a Cirrus you are FARKED!
even in a Cirrus, unless you're quick to the draw, you're done. The airplane's reaction to a wing separation (unless it's a partial one) is sudden and violent, by the time most of us would have our wits about us, the speed would be well above the CAPS deployment envelope

Eddie Dean 28th Jun 2019 01:06
Emergency SB
 
Cessna has issued an Emergency SB about this issue.

On eyre 28th Jun 2019 03:44
Originally Posted by Eddie Dean (Post 10504438)
Cessna has issued an Emergency SB about this issue.
Mandatory and all - just do it people.


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