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-   -   Cirrus down at Tooradin, VIC (https://www.pprune.org/pacific-general-aviation-questions/621117-cirrus-down-tooradin-vic.html)

djpil 6th May 2019 00:17
About the same distance off the runway but in the opposite direction to this Cessna a few years ago: Kathryn's Report: Cessna 182S, VH-PCO: Accident occurred March 20, 2016 at Tooradin Airport, Victoria, Australia
I don't let people take my tailwheel airplane there, mainly for other reasons, but the wind is a factor.

gerry111 6th May 2019 03:41
Originally Posted by Squawk7700 (Post 10463971)
Edit: it’s amazing how short the runway looks on final compared to the overhead pic.
I reckon most runways are like that...

Squawk7700 6th May 2019 04:00
Originally Posted by gerry111 (Post 10464075)
I reckon most runways are like that...
They are shorter when you are going faster.

cowl flaps 6th May 2019 10:54
Originally Posted by Squawk7700 (Post 10463971)
Approximately at the point in red on the reciprocal runway heading to what is pictured below.

Thanks for posting those images Squawk.

Must have been one 'mother......' of a wind gust.

Egipps 11th May 2019 11:17
Originally Posted by djpil (Post 10463978)
About th
I don't let people take my tailwheel airplane there, mainly for other reasons, but the wind is a factor.
Not having flown a tailwheel aircraft I've no idea re the significance.guessing harder on the ground in a crosswind?

Capt Fathom 11th May 2019 11:23
Originally Posted by djpil (Post 10463978)
I don't let people take my tailwheel airplane there, mainly for other reasons, but the wind is a factor.
Why? If they are trained correctly, why would the wind be a factor? Apart from other reasons??

Tee Emm 11th May 2019 12:58
The Tooradin refueller says witnesses saw the Cirrus 'kangaroo' down the runway after a bad landing and eventually the pilot simply lost control. Nothing to do with wind which was minimal

Squawk7700 11th May 2019 22:21

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....83ff79882c.png

Correct... the wind certainly wasn’t significant and was as good as straight down the runway.

djpil 11th May 2019 23:12
Originally Posted by Capt Fathom (Post 10468860)
Why? If they are trained correctly, why would the wind be a factor? Apart from other reasons??
Seems that xwind wasn't a factor in this accident so slightly off topic. Being trained "correctly" at another airfield with a steady xwind and, based at YMMB, perhaps not being current in strong xwinds make the wind a factor so a decision on the day for the specific pilot.

Capn Bloggs 12th May 2019 04:43
That gutter needs work, Squawk! Perhaps Shifty Bill could oblige...


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