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Paul O'Rourke 12th Mar 2019 12:59

TANYA PLIBERSEK - LABOR - CQU AVIATION
 

A flght simulator will form part of a $10 million Labor commitment to help Cairns take off as a world-renowned destination for training pilots.
Why won’t shadow government or government believe in their own aspiring constituents?

Sunfish 12th Mar 2019 18:50

Cairns is geographically and meteorologically unsuited as a training base, let alone from the airspace point of view.

Horatio Leafblower 12th Mar 2019 21:13

...but someone at CQU knows somebody in the ALP or a union and hey presto.
It's a bit like the $4m funding for marketing and promotion to get more women into aviation.
Sometimes I wonder if this "get more women into aviation/mining/whatever is some sort of rort.

When was the last time you saw a campaign to get more men into teaching or nursing or hairdressing?

aroa 13th Mar 2019 02:41

Cloud couckoo land indeed.! Sunny is right ,
Just a couple of years ago the NQ Aeroclub had to move to YMBA because of ops restrictions and outrageous (privatized) airport owner imposts.
YMBA...much better wx, access to controlled airspace and heaps of training area outback
AND...opening of YMBA redevelopment @ $25 mil last Thursday !!
Just another classic example of..'who you know' for CQU, and ' what (not worth a cracker) pollies don't know.

kaz3g 13th Mar 2019 07:38


Originally Posted by Horatio Leafblower (Post 10415741)
...but someone at CQU knows somebody in the ALP or a union and hey presto.
It's a bit like the $4m funding for marketing and promotion to get more women into aviation.
Sometimes I wonder if this "get more women into aviation/mining/whatever is some sort of rort.

When was the last time you saw a campaign to get more men into teaching or nursing or hairdressing?

Thought there might have been support for the investment rather than knocking it. But hey, that’s the Ozzie way.

And I guess the reason why women are encouraged to take more interest in aviation is to leave a few spaces as hairdressers for the many men unable to aspire to the skies.

kaz

Sunfish 13th Mar 2019 07:56

“Support for the investment?” Like investing in building a BBQ in the crater of a Volcano! I’ve flown out of YMBA and the CP’s advice prior to the start of the wet season was to get your flying done by midday because of the afternoon turbulence. I had a taste of high density altitude there as well, which is going to be a surprise for ab initio students. As for wet season flying I can’t comment but i wouldn’t call Cairns and surroundings a meteorological benign area for students.

Paul O'Rourke 13th Mar 2019 09:49

Where did QANTAS choose to set up their training school? Why?

Kaz3g
How does your “support for the investment” in a world-renowned destination” foster aviation within Australia for the young men and women that have grown up in Australia?

aroa 13th Mar 2019 10:16

MBA ...300 sunny days a year.!
Every region has its topographical induced 'micro climate' ymba has its own.In the rain shadow of the ranges..the mba and tablelands "blue hole" is famous. when the wx is unflyable for lighties at cns, ifl, and ath...ymba is ok.
yes, its hot and rough come summer, like everywhere else, and it can get very interesting when storms are about. After they pass in the late arvo..smooth as, after the cooling rain.
When a monsoon rain depression sets in non-vfr conditions apply down to the ground.
All very educational.

Capt Fathom 13th Mar 2019 10:19

Sunfish, you really do need to get more fibre in your diet!

Sunfish 13th Mar 2019 11:13

I’m a natural coward but I liked flying at YMBA, it was educational, hauling a C172 off the runway at about 4000’ DA, you actually had to use the controls for once.

desert goat 14th Mar 2019 02:09


Originally Posted by Sunfish (Post 10415514)
Cairns is geographically and meteorologically unsuited as a training base, let alone from the airspace point of view.

Yes....a bit like Melbourne, really. We couldn't possibly train ab-initio students at a place like Moorabbin.....far too many clouds in the winter-time, not to mention all the airspace. Utterly impossible.

aroa 14th Mar 2019 02:25

The penny WILL drop. They can do all the theory they like in CNS but for the flying bit, the only near and logical option is YMBA.
And maybe they'll even build a big hangar to put all their aircraft in...52 lots of varying sizes now avbl at the Mareeba Airport (Western Precinct) Aviation Park..!!

aroa 14th Mar 2019 02:35

ps...dont worry Sunny...I'm a natural coward as well. Thats why I'm still here.
We all have had exciting "lessons" in the aviation business, to dwell on and digest..ie.ffs dont do that again !
The two mantras I tell the younger...1... Know thy aeroplane, intimately. AND...
2 . Know the weather: watch it, study it learn it, to avoid getting done over by it.

Aah... the loveliness of clouds. But only from the right perspective !

Ironpot 14th Mar 2019 03:53

CQU is based in Rockhampton - surely a much better location for a school?

kaz3g 14th Mar 2019 09:29

There seem to be way more airports in Qld north of Townsville than in the whole of Victoria which suggests that there is a lot of people flying around up there. Simulators are independent of weather I find and perhaps the school is focusing on winter time tables for its flying activities.

kaz

aroa 14th Mar 2019 09:56

FNQ "winter" wx... false premise.
Strong SE trades bang moist maritime air up against the coastal ranges and it becomes u/s for vfr., low cloud and dzl. caught and killed a few. And one lucky young couple who lobbed into a big tree canopy lived to tell the tale !
Inland OK...depending on the strength of the wind, harder the blow , further in the wx gets...once past COE ...clear as a bell to Broome !
Best times, change of the season..April/ May and post Dry Sept/Oct


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