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CaptainMidnight 23rd Dec 2018 22:50

Very true.

I just did some quick googling and of the three Australian companies I looked at, only one mentioned the regulatory requirements and even then it was their own text somewhat incomplete and didn't provide links to the app or CASA pages.

I guess putting that sort of thing up might discourage sales.

airspace alpha 23rd Dec 2018 23:44

Last year JB Hifi at Southland had a good but handwritten notice warning about flying drones near airports and some council parks. I might have missed it but its not there this year and I’m not braving christmas eve shopping hell to find out.

Vag277 24th Dec 2018 00:07

This has been provided to retailers in the past: file:///C:/Users/Kim/Downloads/rpa_brochure_recreational_dl_150dpi.pdf

das Uber Soldat 24th Dec 2018 00:08


Originally Posted by Sunfish (Post 10343284)
If one starts annoying me at my place, out comes the shotgun. I have a right to privacy and quiet enjoyment of my property.

Try that course of action and excuse with polair one day and let us all know how it goes.

CaptainMidnight 24th Dec 2018 00:32

The Australian 24 December 2018: New regulations for drone activity
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https://outline.com/kgqydy

Sunfish 24th Dec 2018 00:53

nobody is talking about shooting at polair. The regs say no drones within 30 metres of people. So anyone doing so is breaking the law and by inference creating a safety hazard. Coincidentally that is about shotgun range. Removing the drone with a shotgun is therefore removing a safety hazard and preventing the commission of any further offence.

A less drastic solution assuming line of sight flying at my place is video of the drone followed by video of the operator and vehicle plus a call to 000.

We live in what is termed a holiday destination and we get a lot of “CUBS” - cashed up bogans with their toys, so a drone incursion is not improbable. We regularly call the police over illegal deer hunting, spotlight shooters, drunken speedsters,unregistered trail bikes etc. as do the neighbors. The police are most attentive at this time of year as we try and prevent them incinerating the neighbourhood, vandalising the infrastructure or killing each other in any number of ways such as throwing butane cartridges into a fire.

Checklist Charlie 24th Dec 2018 02:38

Y shaped thingys with rubber bands and ball shaped mint lollies do a marvelous job as well as tasting nice.

CC

Squawk7700 24th Dec 2018 03:33

You may be somewhat misguided Mr Sunfish, but do tell me please, is flying a drone illegally an indictable offence and does your usage of the shotgun fit with your understanding of section 462A of the Victorian Crimes act 1958?



CRIMES ACT 1958 - SECT 462A

Use of force to prevent the commission of an indictable offence

A person may use such force not disproportionate to the objective as he believes on reasonable grounds to be necessary to prevent the commission, continuance or completion of an indictable offence or to effect or assist in effecting the lawful arrest of a person committing or suspected of committing any offence.

”Reasonable force” in the case of a drone, would be to speak to the operator and advise them to fly elsewhere. Shooting down their $2.5k JB Hifi drone is not “reasonable.”


Sunfish 24th Dec 2018 04:46

I know Sqwawk, but this is Pprune:8

Checklist Charlie 24th Dec 2018 04:55

Often as one takes a lunch break at Southbank one sees a drone tootling around over the Brisbane CBD.

I wonder who and why?

Maybe it's rules for some and open slather for others!

CC

machtuk 24th Dec 2018 06:43


Originally Posted by Sunfish (Post 10343284)
If one starts annoying me at my place, out comes the shotgun. I have a right to privacy and quiet enjoyment of my property.


We'll miss you here Sunny after they lock you up for doing such a foolish thing ! We shall also be following your court case closely, but don't worry we shall drop food parcels off to you over the prison fence, by drone of course:-)

compressor stall 24th Dec 2018 07:23


Originally Posted by Checklist Charlie (Post 10343391)
Y shaped thingys with rubber bands and ball shaped mint lollies do a marvelous job as well as tasting nice.

CC


As an aside, they are illegal too in in many states. Although some states permit home made ones. I bought my kids one each in Bolivia (same ones the herders use to control their flocks on steep ground) as souvenirs. I’m not sure how customs would view it - depending on which state we entered or lived?

Icarus2001 24th Dec 2018 07:29

https://outdoorswarehouse.com.au/wea...d-regulations/

Yet I saw these in a shop the other day, here in Australia.

https://www.globalgear.com.au/armoury/replica-guns.html

http://www.jasperco.com.au/

Pinky the pilot 24th Dec 2018 10:11

I'm with Sunfish here.:ok:

Besides; "Prove it was me what shot it down Officer/Yer Honour/whoever...!":}:E

no_one 24th Dec 2018 20:11


Originally Posted by Pinky the pilot (Post 10343593)
I'm with Sunfish here.:ok:

Besides; "Prove it was me what shot it down Officer/Yer Honour/whoever...!":}:E

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At which point the HDR 4K footage from the drone is played to the court.....

machtuk 24th Dec 2018 21:06


Originally Posted by no_one (Post 10343918)
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At which point the HDR 4K footage from the drone is played to the court.....

Hahaha I wasn't gunna mention that so as not to increase Sunny's chance of a long stay at her Majesties pleasure...lolol

Good time to stay out of the sky today guys, lots of drones no doubt given for Xmas pressies...…...of course all new owners know the laws....cough cough cough

Merry Xmas to all who believe, to those that don't then it's just another day in Prooon world:-)

Pinky the pilot 24th Dec 2018 21:15


At which point the HDR 4K footage from the drone is played to the court.....
Which showed no-one as the person with the shotgun was in a concealed position/out of camera frame/etc.:}

I get your point no-one but there are ways and means....:D

And a Merry Christmas to you and all fellow Ppruners!:ok:

Squawk7700 24th Dec 2018 21:25


Good time to stay out of the sky today guys, lots of drones no doubt given for Xmas pressies...…...of course all new owners know the laws....cough cough cough
The day(s) to keep on the ground were the few days leading up to Christmas, just like when driving on the road. Those once a term fliers out taking family up for their once a year flight and getting their last minute AFR’s done.

LeadSled 25th Dec 2018 00:00

Folks,
An almost insurmountable problem is the very large number of "drones" that arrive mail order from China or elsewhere ---- what percentage of total sales, I do not know, but in numbers it is in the tens, probably hundreds of thousands for quite advanced RPV --- how do I know --- because I was once associated with a company in China, one of who's divisions did huge mail order /E-Bay/Amazon/AliBaba business with Australia, and he was one of many.
Getting the message across about rules and restrictions to most of his customers would be a thankless task.
Tootle pip!!

Sunfish 25th Dec 2018 03:26

Honest yer Honour, I thought it was just another mosquito!


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