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Incident at Mount Gambier
Emergency services called to Mt Gambier airport yesterday early afternoon. B200 ODI sitting on the tarmac with both props bent, no underside damage. One engine covered in oil. MFS: *CFSRES INC0045 08/12/18 14:15 RESPOND VEHICLE FUEL LEAK, ALARM LEVEL: 1, : @MOUNT GAMBIER AIRPORT 81 AIRPORT RD WANDILO,MAP:SE 11 8023,TG 226, == LIGHT PLANE CRASH ON TARMAC, ALL PERSONS EVAC, LEAKING FUEL :WNDL34 : |
Sounds interesting.......... |
Interesting indeed
I saw VH-ODI for sale recently somewhere for a mere $500k. I guess that the sale price will have to be marked down somewhat now... |
Flight Radar track is just as interesting... |
Bad weather, strong crosswind - totally stuffed up!
DF. |
Tell us more DF - can’t just be that �� |
Originally Posted by On eyre
(Post 10331481)
Tell us more DF - can’t just be that �� DF. |
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Thanks DF - I have and he filled me in. Nothing is secret in GA for too long in this state �� |
Originally Posted by On eyre
(Post 10331490)
Thanks DF - I have and he filled me in. Nothing is secret in GA for too long in this state �� DF. |
Originally Posted by Desert Flower
(Post 10331476)
Bad weather, strong crosswind - totally stuffed up!
DF. |
They are the most bent props I have seen - No flap?
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Originally Posted by Bend alot
(Post 10331504)
They are the most bent props I have seen - No flap?
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Can you bend a king air prop with the wheels down? Does the wingtip hit first? |
I think the prop modification is called "Q" tips but that's not how you are supposed to get them...
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Originally Posted by Cloudee
(Post 10331501)
FR24 showing an approach and very low go around on 18, followed by a low circuit to land. Wouldn’t have liked to be on board if the props were bent like that in the final circuit. Were there any passengers? DF. |
The FlightAware track is interesting...VH-ODI have a look. Tracks straight in for 18 but doesn’t get below 2000’, not visual I guess, climbs back to 5000’, does the instrument approach down to what Flight Aware shows as 50’, goes around and makes a very tight circuit back onto 18....
DF. |
Originally Posted by The Banjo
(Post 10331518)
I think the prop modification is called "Q" tips but that's not how you are supposed to get them...
DF. |
Hardy had a less extent - Q Tip mod in Darwin years ago on a Titan, but had a bit of gravel rash on flaps(one more than other from memory) as well.
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https://www.atsb.gov.au/media/577203...-072-final.pdf A Navajo touched its prop tips on the Birdsville runway causing similar damage when it tried to land wheels up and then did a circuit to land with the wheels in the correct position, 4/7/16. |
Originally Posted by Cloudee
(Post 10331539)
https://www.atsb.gov.au/media/577203...-072-final.pdf A Navajo touched its prop tips on the Birdsville runway causing similar damage when it tried to land wheels up and then did a circuit to land with the wheels in the correct position, 4/7/16. DF. |
A CAsA Bonanza at Serpentine - but elected to fly back to Jandakot.
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YMTG Speci at the time...not a great look
speci ymtg 080100z auto 17011kt 9999 // ovc004 16/15 q1018
speci ymtg 080130z auto 18011kt 9999 // ovc003 16/15 q1018 speci ymtg 080200z auto 18012kt 9999 // ovc004 16/15 q1018 |
Originally Posted by 1/2 bank
(Post 10331572)
speci ymtg 080100z auto 17011kt 9999 // ovc004 16/15 q1018
speci ymtg 080130z auto 18011kt 9999 // ovc003 16/15 q1018 speci ymtg 080200z auto 18012kt 9999 // ovc004 16/15 q1018 A good recovery from a strong x wind. |
Strong crosswind?? 10kts straight down the runway |
Originally Posted by Xatrix
(Post 10331585)
Strong crosswind?? 10kts straight down the runway "Bad weather, strong crosswind - totally stuffed up!" Quote as above. |
Bend alot- maybe DF got it wrong with that quote. |
Hmmm,
Maybe Bendalot, but look at a photo of a king air front on. Tell me with wheels down, what AoB would be have to be to touch the prop on one side - and not damage the wingtip - AND also then repeat on the other? Geometrically I don't think it is even possible (although I am not sure what diameter prop this has). My money is on a wheels up after a poor weather approach to minima realised at the last second and went around and the props hit. Only just touched though as the antenna is still ok. Either way, poor bugger. Hope s/he's doing OK tonight. Do you still get a gig with QF these days once you've done a wheels up? |
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Originally Posted by On eyre
(Post 10331601)
Bend alot- maybe DF got it wrong with that quote. DF. |
Ok look. I admit that my flying skills are not always perfect, but I would have to suggest that if you’re doing that much damage with the wind light and literally straight down the runway you shouldn’t be in the skies. Not to mention the lack of professionalism landing below minima. (Could argue that once the damage was done it was essential to bust the minima to land ASAP, but hard to argue that beforehand). As a MTG regular I know that it can hang around for a fair while. As a former B200 driver (very well behaved aircraft) I find this quite bizarre. |
Originally Posted by compressor stall
(Post 10331603)
Either way, poor bugger. Hope s/he's doing OK tonight. Do you still get a gig with QF these days once you've done a wheels up?
DF. |
Originally Posted by compressor stall
(Post 10331603)
Hmmm,
Maybe Bendalot, but look at a photo of a king air front on. Tell me with wheels out, what AoB would be have to be to touch the prop on one side - and not damage the wingtip - AND also then repeat on the other? Geometrically is it even possible (although I am not sure what diameter prop this has). Either way, poor bugger. Hope s/he's doing OK tonight. Do you still get a gig with QF these days once you've done a wheels up? That mate is a prop strike. Wing tip strike?? that is why my first comment was about flaps. The stub wing (till nacelles) on a king air is pretty flat - then the wing gets higher from the ground as it goes out/bd - so the lowest point of wing is in/db flaps if extended - then the engine nacelles - wing tips a few feet higher than that. https://www.ctsys.com/blog/entry/cts...-air-b200.html |
****ty weather, concentrating on the approach, below minima, forgot the wheels, prop strike, go-around with Qtips now installed, low level return to RWY 18, wheels down this time, oh **** sadly !! |
Yes, a prop strike with a wheels up landing and go around as the props touched. I was editing as you were replying Bendalot.
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Originally Posted by On eyre
(Post 10331617)
****ty weather, concentrating on the approach, below minima, forgot the wheels, prop strike, go-around with Qtips now installed, low level return to RWY 18, wheels down this time, oh **** !! |
Will this be the end of a career?
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.......more like the end of the company! |
Same pilot forgot to put the wheels down on a DC3 at YPOD many years ago....
DF. |
Two pilots on board, one under training/ supervision at the time.
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