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Originally Posted by The name is Porter (Post 10241687)

Lead, I don't think you're getting the point? How does a LAME know what components of the aircraft I was working on? Unless the LAME did a full and comprehensive annual. The individual that removed the aircraft from the hangar is on CCTV. There was no evidence of any 'fresh 100 hourly' taking place on CCTV.

I continue to say 'if' ........................... 'if' .......................the aircraft was flown out of this aerodrome, the ADSB must have been disabled.

Why?
Why is it being hidden?

I also continue to say: I...............was................performing............... ........maintenance.......................on................ ......the ..................aircraft......................at.......... ..........the.......................time.................... .....it..................was................removed......... .............from......................the.................. ......hangar.

That maintenance has not been recorded or cleared on the MR or the logbooks.

An attempt was made today to change the the insurance details on the aircraft i.e. change it to another companies name. The insurance company refused to change the details unless all parties were consulted, at least some organisations have gumption.

The evidence continues to build.

The bell will toll.

So let it toll. Why get on here and whinge about your companies missing RV? And do you really thing spelling it out liiikkkeee......thiiiiisss...... in an attempt to suggest those that have been following along at home are somewhat denser than your average 2x4 will achieve anything?

You say you have him on CCTV. Fine. Congratulations. We're all very happy for you. Because now you can take it to the fuzz and let the wallopers do what they are paid for. Whinging here on Prune about you not being able to sign off on the MR when what you are are really wanting to do is get back at your former partner and get 'your' -10 back ain't going to do sweet FA, except provide endless entertainment for the rest of us.

Anyway, how do you know a LAME didn't satisfy himself the aircraft was airworthy and was willing to sign off on a new MR? An RV isn't exactly a complex aircraft. Placard the transponder as INOP as he can't see the RAD43 certification and away it goes. OR perhaps doesn't go. Who really knows? :}

The fact that you removed the MR from the aircraft to stop it being flown suggests that you knew that this was a possibility. Removing the prop may have been a better option ! (or maybe a wheel)

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An attempt was made today to change the the insurance details on the aircraft i.e. change it to another companies name. The insurance company refused to change the details unless all parties were consulted, at least some organisations have gumption.

Well the answer is simple then, just lodge a claim on insurance that the aircraft has been stolen, collect the payout and move on. Hopefully it was insured for a reasonable sum. You keep telling us it was stolen. Must be true.

the directors of the company that owns the aircraft must make formal notification to the police and insurers that the aircraft has been stolen, period. Not to do that exposes the directors to the crime of "misprision of a felony"- you must report a presumed theft.

What happens afterwards is anyone's guess, but you must report suspected crime.

imho, if the aircraft ain't found - criminal offence.

imho it is found - civil case.

if you know that somebody knows where the aircraft is, but ain't tellin, you need a writ from the court freezing movement and putting the aircraft under the control of the court which means anyone who touches. it is in contempt of court.

....or, call your local bikies;(

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Originally Posted by Sunfish (Post 10241870)

....or, call your local bikies;(

I thought Melbournians got that Mick Gatto bloke to mediate these sorts of disputes..

TNIP: You continue to say that you were performing maintenance on the aircraft at the time it was was removed from the hangar, but that’s not true (no ..... matter ..... how ..... many ..... full ..... stops .... you .... put .... between .... the .... words.....). What actually happened was that you started some maintenance, you left the hangar before that maintenance was completed and when you came back the aircraft was not in that hangar.

In any event, let’s assume there’s an aircraft in a hangar and someone is doing maintenance on it. Before that maintenance is completed, the person has a heart attack and dies. Nobody knows what maintenance was being performed or where it was up to. Are you seriously suggesting that the aircraft can never be flown again? Nobody is qualified to inspect the aircraft and certify it airworthy? Seriously?

It’s just a f*cking RV10. It’s not an SR71.

Have to admit - entertaining reading with my morning coffee.....

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Originally Posted by packapoo (Post 10242325)

Have to admit - entertaining reading with my morning coffee.....

What's entertaining is how aggro everyone is getting.

From what I understand, this thread started as a request for information along the lines of "if anyone knows where this plane is, please let me know"....

...from which this Soap Opera has started!

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Originally Posted by packapoo (Post 10242325)

Have to admit - entertaining reading with my morning coffee.....

Almost as entertaining as the Robert Weaver threads.

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Originally Posted by havick (Post 10242436)

Almost as entertaining as the Robert Weaver threads.

.....you don't think he..:}

Without looking at the ownership structure, the aircraft may be protected from resale if it's on the Personal Property Securities Register which can be done by the majority owner This means if it's sold to a buyer who doesn't do their due diligence the title of the property does pass. It's not too late to register and it should refer to all serial number of engine, instruments, radios (and ADSB) in the event that it's stripped and sold for parts.

Aircraft can be easily spirited away and hidden anywhere in Australia. I know someone who'd like to locate the whereabouts of VH-IOD PA31-350 and VH-ALT PA30 which if I understand correctly, were somehow related to an insolvency or similar.

The Personal Property Securities Register (PPSR) is a national online register that can provide information to help protect consumers when they are buying personal property such as cars, boats or artworks (not including land or buildings).

What is the PPSR? PPSR

https://www.ppsr.gov.au/what-personal-property-securities-register-ppsr

TNIP,

I'm curious, what exactly was the unfinished maintenance?

McHale. https://www.pprune.org/images/smilies/smile.gif

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Originally Posted by gerry111 (Post 10241922)

I thought Melbournians got that Mick Gatto bloke to mediate these sorts of disputes..

Well....in this case perhaps that would be the best idea.
Not sure I can see anyone else getting involved.

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Originally Posted by Derfred (Post 10240358)

Is it a stolen aircraft?
So far it appears to be a game of hide’n’seek between two star-crossed lovers, the eventual reconciliation of which, according to most on this thread, will spell the death of both families, and all will be punished.

Yes....sounds like all will be punished, the lawyers are most likely to be the winners here.

One has to suspect however that someone removing an aircraft, disabling monitoring and hiding it....well...it looks pretty sneaky. One can't help but suspect that they are up to no good.

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The fact that you removed the MR from the aircraft to stop it being flown suggests that you knew that this was a possibility. Removing the prop may have been a better option ! (or maybe a wheel)

It was not I that removed the MR.

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Personal Property Securities Register

Interesting, one day you will all know the story, it's an eye opener.

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Originally Posted by The name is Porter (Post 10242592)

Interesting, one day you will all know the story, it's an eye opener.

No thanks - I'm washing my hair that decade.

PDR

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Originally Posted by Capt Quentin McHale (Post 10242534)

TNIP,

I'm curious, what exactly was the unfinished maintenance?

McHale. https://www.pprune.org/images/smilies/smile.gif

From the sounds of it - oiling the canopy hinges, putting nitrogen in the tyres, topping up thje ashtrays or similar. Just something that one of the "owners" could use to deny the other "owner" any use of their toy by declaring it "undergoing maintenance".

PDR

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Originally Posted by The name is Porter (Post 10242590)

It was not I that removed the MR.

So you are now saying the other party has the MR? Surely that means that it COULD have been worked on by a normal LAME?

PDR

TNIP,

In case you missed my question, and I'm still curious, what EXACTLY was the unfinished maintenance?

McHale.https://www.pprune.org/images/smilies/smile.gif

PDR1.... bit of a mystery, but you may be on the money!!!!