Trainee firefighter blows whistle, claiming teachers called students ‘fat f**ks, dumb
 

Folks,
Sound like some delicate little flowers wilted under the strain??
I suppose Airservices will have to provide "safe spaces" for those demanding it, and guaranteeing that ARFFS perx will not be confronted with upsetting circumstances that cause personal distress.
I am not being entirely sarcastic here, no names no packdrill, but in a certain airline two cabin crew perx under training quit during the cabin evacuation training, finding all the shouting and pushing and shoving "loud, physical and distressing" and in particular apparently felt that "evacuation commands" should have been "requests delivered in a less strident tone".
I kid you not. At least they quit, but will they sue??
Tootle pip!!
PS: PERX: a gender neutral term to describe an alleged member of the human race, consistent with the Australian Government style guide.

"Former Sydney paramedic "

delicate ? Maybe not.

However, it seems the other members of the course managed to learn, stay focused, and not make mistakes, while having various words yelled at them.

“made so many sacrifices through the recruitment process to make it onto this team”

But, being called out for cocking up obviously wasn't one of them.

Sounds like a few check captains I flew with..

7700,
Despite the times we live in, there are some jobs that can be high stress, as I am sure you know. Before I criticise the ASA trainer, I would want to know a lot more about the real circumstances, because I don't believe the original premise, I wonder what the balanced story really was. And I don't have much faith in ASA senior management making other than PC determinations.
As for the airline case I quoted, and I do have confidence in the reporter, it is a pathetic example of the times, in which we live ----- Where "being nice and polite" takes precedence over giving orders and demanding action that might save lives. Sadly, even in the flightdeck, I have come across an inability to give orders, when an order was legally required ---- and this is NOT in circumstances of normal CRM interaction, so don't throw that one back.
Tootle pip!!

There it is in a nutshell.
Is that not what happens when you resign from one position to take up another different career that is in a different locale, and is there no chance of failing this training?
Or may well have turned out average or even below average, or perhaps not even passed. She pulled the pin just over half way through, so who knows?
Really?

She probably quit when she found out the men were paid more.

Still just trying to get my head around where giving orders and taking action" is justification for someone being called a "fat f*ck" or ""dumb". As Squawk7700 mentioned, even the military doesn't pull that crap any more. When I was an instructor at RMC Duntroon in the early 90s there were still a few knuckle dragging Neanderthals on staff who couldn't quite grasp the fact that you don't get the best out of an individual regardless of gender by shouting and screaming abuse.
If the facts of the complaint were not true I doubt very much that the disgruntled trainee would have gone public. AsA have not denied those facts but even here there seems to be people who subscribe to this type of behaviour.:confused:
The trainee may well have not been up to standard but there are more than adequate provisions under the AQTF to deal with this.

Folks,
One of the reasons I doubt the basic premise of the allegation is that I have never , in any aviation training (or other aviation) situation (this is not a building site and/or a CFMMEU "meeting") heard, or heard of such language being used, outside of a bar over a few beers, and never in a professional situation.
But I can well imagine ASA management going to water on the matter. And as some of you well know, I have been around aviation a long time.
If a few of you gave it a bit of thought before you jumped to abuse, yourselves, nothing I originally posted condoned the language allegedly used. I just need a lot of convincing the situation occurred as claimed, as opposed to just accepting the allegations of the disgruntled failed trainee.
Tootle pip!!

Given she's a paramedic, she'd probably handle that better than you would.

I'll try but I just can't help it. Jumping in. To abuse myself. :ok:

Once in a while a training establishment may have a staff member that over steps the mark. Time will tell.

Some operational environments are challenging, adverse and carry a degree of risk.

This risk can be managed to a degree by the quality of the training provided and the suitability of the candidates. Hats off to any individual that volunteers for these roles.

However not all measure up. Better to discover this early in the selection or training phase than later on operations where the consequences are final. Better for the individual, better for the organisation and better for the recipient of whatever service it is they provide.

Capn Bloggs, now there's a mental image that has my trembling hand reaching for some mind-bleach....

Bloggsie,
Good catch, amazing what a missing comma can do to the intended meaning --- post suitably edited.
Now, back to my major point, I would need a lot of convincing that the claims of the complainant are what really happened.
Tootle pip!!