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troppo 29th Nov 2017 08:33

Cessna 408 SkyCourier
 
Looks like they bred a BE1900 with a DHC8.
Then again maybe it's a westernised LET410 :}
Textron Aviation Unveils New Large-Utility Turboprop, the Cessna SkyCourier | Business Wire
Cessna SkyCourier

OZBUSDRIVER 29th Nov 2017 08:43

Bit like a Dornier Do228

Connedrod 29th Nov 2017 09:23

What the nomad should have been,

Left 270 29th Nov 2017 11:32

Anybody found a MTOW for it?

Global Aviator 29th Nov 2017 16:27

Looks like a bit of a hybrid from everything.

The question is...... expected cost?

Sounds like good speed when put next to the Viking.

Now a float option would be sweet!

Connedrod 29th Nov 2017 17:35


Originally Posted by Global Aviator (Post 9973247)
Looks like a bit of a hybrid from everything.

The question is...... expected cost?

Sounds like good speed when put next to the Viking.

Now a float option would be sweet!

Quoted price 5.5 us
Whats is interesting is the choice of engines. Seams they gone for the pt6. Had they gone for the GE it woyld have been a game changer for GE. Fedex was the reason forthe pt6 to get the single engine ifr charter certification. Had they gone with ge and proved its reliable would have give ge some extremly strong data for the same

Bend alot 29th Nov 2017 19:48

I did think Nomad!

Options would be good.


Engine options.


Pressurised & non-pressurised.


Floats/ski's.

Wunwing 30th Nov 2017 00:18

Why wouldn't they use a PT6? Its clear from the press release that the project is built around the FedEx order and FedEx and its associates has a long history of using PT6 powered aircraft.

The transition period of the new aircraft coming online to current PT6 operators alone would justify a common engine type.

Wunwing

A Squared 30th Nov 2017 00:50


Originally Posted by Connedrod (Post 9973316)
Quoted price 5.5 us
Whats is interesting is the choice of engines. Seams they gone for the pt6. Had they gone for the GE it woyld have been a game changer for GE. Fedex was the reason forthe pt6 to get the single engine ifr charter certification. Had they gone with ge and proved its reliable would have give ge some extremly strong data for the same


So, P&W got single engine IFR certification due to the record of single engine IFR operations on the caravan with FedEx ... Taking that at face value, how would putting GE's engine on a multi-engine airplane help them gain single engine certification?

OZBUSDRIVER 30th Nov 2017 03:52


The PT6 family is known for its reliability with an in-flight shutdown rate of 1 per 333000 hours since 1963,[6] 1 per 651,126 hours over 12 months in 2016.
It isn't rocket science to work out reliability in a multi and calculate risk for single engine IFR applications.

Connedrod 30th Nov 2017 05:01


Originally Posted by A Squared (Post 9973755)
So, P&W got single engine IFR certification due to the record of single engine IFR operations on the caravan with FedEx ... Taking that at face value, how would putting GE's engine on a multi-engine airplane help them gain single engine certification?

Because the engines are independent of each other. Plus the bonus of ever 1 hour flyi g time you are getting 2 hours of reliable record. So in fact it can be shown in half the flight hours as againts to 208

Connedrod 30th Nov 2017 05:02


Originally Posted by OZBUSDRIVER (Post 9973838)
It isn't rocket science to work out reliability in a multi and calculate risk for single engine IFR applications.

Over 12 months ago the pt6 seris had over 550million flight hours in service.

Duck Pilot 30th Nov 2017 07:36

ASEPTA approval in Australia is based on engine/airframe reliability not just the engine. Think you will find that some C-208 variants aren’t ASEPTA approved in Australia (yet), Caravan EX maybe? Other types such as the PC-6 won’t get a lookin without reliability data.

lo_lyf 30th Nov 2017 08:36

ASEA is such a joke. Just approve anything with a PT6.

Connedrod 30th Nov 2017 08:50


Originally Posted by Duck Pilot (Post 9973948)
ASEPTA approval in Australia is based on engine/airframe reliability not just the engine. Think you will find that some C-208 variants aren’t ASEPTA approved in Australia (yet), Caravan EX maybe? Other types such as the PC-6 won’t get a lookin without reliability data.

Yes. You can make any caravan complaint with the mods. The aircraft is in tne consideration but ghe main thing is the thing at the front converting liquid into noise.

Octane 30th Nov 2017 09:18

Weird looking props?

troppo 30th Nov 2017 09:21

GE vs PW argument aside, there are some potential uses for it. Payload is on par with DHC6-400. Faster cruise but takeoff distance handicap. Pacific Islands over water uses spring to mind.

LeadSled 30th Nov 2017 10:01

Folks,
Looks like it will be the first aircraft to be certified under the new FAR/EASA 23.
Be interesting to see if the rather radical new system will work, probably beautifully, as CASA are already saying No!

Tootle pip!!

Duck Pilot 30th Nov 2017 10:57

Particularly if it's certified for 19 seats Leadie, Kiwi regs would fix all this - BUT WHAT WOULD WE KNOW?

LeadSled 30th Nov 2017 14:04

Duck Pilot,
Exactly!
Tootle Pip!!


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