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BEACH KING 3rd Nov 2017 00:54


Originally Posted by Connedrod (Post 9944748)
Gerry your alive. What after the pms trying to find out where i am you went all quite. You take me as a fool what you think i would tell you. But know you have awaken. Your not worth replying to so i wont an all the pm im getting speaks for its self. Btw in my way. And what you taken up the rear for the other two now . Cant they speak for themselves


Originally Posted by Atlas Shrugged (Post 9942886)
How old are you people?......4?

The answer is Yes by the look of it.

What was this thread about again?
I thought it was about a tragic fatal aircraft accident involving a respected competent experienced pilot, with long experience flying a well maintained multi engined aircraft, into a familiar field into which he flew regularly.
I believe there will be a lesson for me in the investigation.
My sympathy to the family and friends of the two who were taken in the accident.

StickWithTheTruth 3rd Nov 2017 01:59

I miss CreamPuff.

gerry111 3rd Nov 2017 14:26


Originally Posted by Connedrod (Post 9944748)
Gerry your alive. What after the pms trying to find out where i am you went all quite. You take me as a fool what you think i would tell you. But know you have awaken. Your not worth replying to so i wont an all the pm im getting speaks for its self. Btw in my way. And what you taken up the rear for the other two now . Cant they speak for themselves

Connedrod, I'm staying overnight at the Criterion Hotel at Crookwell. (I have a contract to do several things upon a wind farm there.) I was hoping to invite you for coffee and breakfast in the morning?

Lookleft 4th Nov 2017 00:05


What was this thread about again?
I thought it was about a tragic fatal aircraft accident involving a respected competent experienced pilot, with long experience flying a well maintained multi engined aircraft, into a familiar field into which he flew regularly.
I believe there will be a lesson for me in the investigation.
That is where it started. The lesson from the investigation won't be made available for another two years at least. As was stated an experienced pilot in a well maintained 310 flying into a familiar field. What this accident suggests is that no one is immune from accidents regardless of experience and equipment. Going back to the eyewitness account of the aircraft attitude and the fact that there was no post crash fire then fuel exhaustion or fuel starvation is a strong possibility. The lesson to be learnt at this stage, I would suggest, is that monitoring the fuel distribution in a light twin should be given a higher priority in a pilot's workflow. If you think its not an issue then put in fuel starvation into a search engine or else have a look at this report which goes back to 2003

https://www.atsb.gov.au/publications...nd_starvation/

Bend alot 4th Nov 2017 00:26

Not saying is a factor in this.

I have seen over the years a few of the flexible hoses in that aft fairing that go tick tick the wrong way around. That only becomes an issue under certain conditions and attitudes.

Connedrod 6th Nov 2017 19:11


Originally Posted by Lead Balloon (Post 9942020)
The “idiots” are the people who come out of the woodwork and speculate.

(And Conedrod, I have never “implemented any unnecessary regulations”.)

Oh creampuff im sorry i should have used the word involved in any unnecessary not implemented any unnecessary regulations hope that that clears it up for you. One would imagine that casa staff when asked if the implemented any unnecessary regulations they also would say say no they havent.
Unfortunately casa is riddle with corruption this dosnt mean the transfer of money btw.

Connedrod 6th Nov 2017 19:15


Originally Posted by gerry111 (Post 9945537)
Connedrod, I'm staying overnight at the Criterion Hotel at Crookwell. (I have a contract to do several things upon a wind farm there.) I was hoping to invite you for coffee and breakfast in the morning?

Free breaky shame im not in crookwell. What you inspecting the blade failure i take it that happened a few weeks ago where instead of going round and round was on the ground like a postitue on its back fire trucked on the ground.
And working for the turbine company thats making a lot sence now.

Capt Fathom 6th Nov 2017 19:56


thats making a lot sence now
You sure about that?

Connedrod 6th Nov 2017 20:32


Originally Posted by Capt Fathom (Post 9948718)
You sure about that?

Oh most definitely. Small narrow minded poeple may not but thoose that can read into things and outside of the box will see it for what it is.

StickWithTheTruth 6th Nov 2017 22:32

I can't believe how rude many of you are towards someone whom is clearly dyslexic, it's very disappointing to see in this day and age. Attack the post for its' content guys, not the poster. He's only responding in defence to your attacks.

Atlas Shrugged 6th Nov 2017 22:39

Seeing that the point of this thread was lost about 2 pages ago, for anyone interested Grant's funeral will be held in Sydney at Uniting Church, 10 Clanwilliam Street, Willoughby on Friday 17 November at 1:00pm followed by a private cremation.

bentleg 9th Dec 2017 01:37

ATSB Preliminary Report has issued

Lookleft 9th Dec 2017 03:02


On-site examination of the wreckage, surrounding markings on trees and the ground indicated that the aircraft impacted terrain in a steep nose-down attitude and banked to the left. The aircraft was in a landing configuration.

The left wing had separated outboard of the left engine, and both the wing-tip pods had separated from the wings. The remaining fuel tanks were also breached and no fuel was found, however a smell of aviation fuel was noted by emergency responders at the accident site. There was no evidence of fire.

Examination of the engines and propellers indicated that the left engine was producing no power and the right engine was likely producing low power at the time of the accident.
Consistent with the eye witness accounts.


The lesson to be learnt at this stage, I would suggest, is that monitoring the fuel distribution in a light twin should be given a higher priority in a pilot's workflow.

Lookleft 30th Jan 2020 05:38

The report has been finalised. Sometimes the speculation is correct.AO-2017-105

Cloudee 30th Jan 2020 07:10

From the report. “ Documentation for the aircraft’s prior maintenance history, including fuel gauge calibration, was not available”
Surely this could be relevant to the investigation and would warrant more explanation as to why this documentation was not available.

0ttoL 30th Jan 2020 20:29


Originally Posted by Lookleft (Post 10675093)
The report has been finalised. Sometimes the speculation is correct.AO-2017-105

https://www.atsb.gov.au/publications...r/ao-2017-105/

machtuk 30th Jan 2020 23:24

So very tragic and so unesesary -(


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