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scavenger 28th Jun 2017 04:06


Hopefully AndrewR will pipe up and say it's a private operation that has to be authorised by an AOC
Haha yeah I remember that thread. By the end, I thought it was a wind up and gave up. Subsequent offerings convinced me it was for real...

feueraxt 28th Jun 2017 04:34

It needs more sex and violence.

outnabout 28th Jun 2017 05:03

No one, I didn't have any success in opening your link.

I did find this, from Australian Flying in 2013, while I was browsing...

CASA has confirmed that pilots will need to comply with the regulations of CASR 21.M to install "GoPro" type cameras on the external surface of an aircraft.

Under CASR 21.M (the old CAR35), a CASA authorised person has to approve the installation against existing airworthiness standards before the aeroplane can be flown.

"Attaching anything to the external surfaces of an aircraft, whether it is the wing or not, is considered a modification," CASA's spokesperson said.

"Depending on what is being attached, it may have an effect on the aerodynamics, structure and depending on its location it can affect the airspeed/altimeter readings, etc. Therefore, the alteration to the aircraft needs to be justified against the applicable airworthiness standard.

"Civil Aviation Regulations (CAR) 1988 regulation 35 was repealed approximately two years ago and replace by CASA Subpart 21.M. However, CASR Subpart 21.M has the same requirements as CAR 35 did.

"CASR Subpart 21.M does not disallow the installation of a modification or alteration to an aircraft, it is a regulation that allows design approval of the modification. CAR 42U requires any modification or repair to an aircraft to be installed in accordance with approved data. Therefore attaching a temporary modification must be done to 21.M approved data by an appropriately licenced person."

With the proliferation of GoPro-style cameras for videos and still shots, the issue has been bought into sharp focus, especially when those shots are published or put on websites.


Read more at CASA Confirms External Camera Ruling - Australian Flying

Feueraxt, the sex is provided by professional / conscientious pilots watching this and screaming FFS

Flying Binghi 28th Jun 2017 05:42


...conscientious pilots watching this...
Oh, well. Garbage bulldropping show that it is at least its got more integrity then the subject matter of those other shows on TV... that's the shows staring turnBull, bisHop, and pYne.

https://www.facebook.com/PaulMurrayL...6959478666347/





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gerry111 28th Jun 2017 15:05


Originally Posted by YPJT (Post 9814428)
You'd think if you knew your actions were on film you'd try and nail the centreline on landing :rolleyes:

But the viewers would know that it's OK to cross a broken centre line, painted on bitumen.

no_one 29th Jun 2017 06:56

Outnabout,

Hopefully this link works:
https://www.casa.gov.au/files/023c01pdf

ACMS 30th Jun 2017 00:01

"Luck of the draw, when your number's up, your number's up.....":sad:

Oh that's great Tegan........do you pray as well?:bored:

Desert Flower 30th Jun 2017 08:47


Originally Posted by ACMS (Post 9816657)
"Luck of the draw, when your number's up, your number's up.....":sad:

Oh that's great Tegan........do you pray as well?:bored:

You know what ACMS? I have always subscribed to that theory too. And no, I don't pray.

DF.

ACMS 1st Jul 2017 05:42

DF I know mate but it does seem a bit melodramatic even considering the knowledge of the average viewers...We all know a little more planning goes into it, not to mention science and physics.....P charts, W&B etc......

We don't just put an finger in the wind and say "she'll be right, luck of the draw"

Band a Lot 1st Jul 2017 06:22


Originally Posted by outnabout (Post 9814454)
CASA has confirmed that pilots will need to comply with the regulations of CASR 21.M to install "GoPro" type cameras on the external surface of an aircraft.


"CASR Subpart 21.M does not disallow the installation of a modification or alteration to an aircraft, it is a regulation that allows design approval of the modification. CAR 42U requires any modification or repair to an aircraft to be installed in accordance with approved data. Therefore attaching a temporary modification must be done to 21.M approved data by an appropriately licenced person."




So what is approved data? and where must it be recorded?

pilotchute 1st Jul 2017 13:06

I think to myself why on earth would these people agree to be filmed? It's not mandatory. You can say no.

When that Airline show was being filmed at Tiger Airways a few years ago only a couple of people refused to take part.

One of the people who refused worked in Ops so if there was a turn back or AOG and he was working he wouldn't let the production crew in the office. The producers would lose their s*#t at him because 99% of the time nothing happened worth filming. They would wait for shift change then "re enact" the drama.

It was said that the lengths people would go to just to get 10 seconds on TV was scary. They would say anything the producer wanted them too.

gerry111 1st Jul 2017 14:56

Yes, but it's brilliant entertainment on free to air TV. There's far worse out there!

I just so love the lost cattle and goats stories. (The photography of the bush is always well appreciated by me.)

Invariably, there's a happy ending..

outnabout 5th Jul 2017 00:05

Done and dusted - Thank the Lord.

Flying Binghi 5th Jul 2017 04:15


...Yes, but it's brilliant entertainment on free to air TV...
You obviously know a few of the 'actors' in the series and just caint wait to give them hell for making such muppets of them selves..;)






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PLovett 5th Jul 2017 12:13

In 2007 I was tasked with taking a production team, a vet and his assistant to Bathurst Island where they were filming an episode for "Outback Vet". I thought this is going to be an easy day - quick trip then a restful day followed by a quick trip back to Darwin. Ha!

We had to walk out to the aircraft 3 times being filled from behind, in front and from the side. Then we were filmed boarding the aircraft, then of course I had to get out again to get the bloody production crew in as well. At Bathurst Island the vet and his assistant had to be filmed getting out of the aircraft. Then I had to do a circuit so the aircraft could be filmed landing. Then they all departed for the community for the day.

Bathurst Island at the time didn't have lights and last light was starting to get close and I didn't have the number for the director's assistant. So ring Darwin, they only had the production house number in Sydney. Ring them. Get the assistant's number. Ring her - get one very peed off lady who wants to do serious damage to the director as he is being totally pretentious about filming his magnum opus. Advise her that if they aren't back in 30 minutes were on the island for the night. Some serious swearing followed followed by..."we'll be there".

I thought, great - it will work out well. Oh no, when director arrives he wants to film more scenes of boarding etc. I give him a time limit at which the look on his face can only be described as one who has been told that his favourite cafe is out of coffee and has been served tea instead.

Thankfully, the 402 is tightly cowled and temps come up quickly. We got airborne with only a minute or two to spare. The episode never went to air. It wound up on Channel 7 web site only. So much for the 15 minutes of fame.

Desert Flower 5th Jul 2017 13:30


Originally Posted by PLovett (Post 9821424)
In 2007 I was tasked with taking a production team, a vet and his assistant to Bathurst Island where they were filming an episode for "Outback Vet". I thought this is going to be an easy day - quick trip then a restful day followed by a quick trip back to Darwin. Ha!

We had to walk out to the aircraft 3 times being filled from behind, in front and from the side. Then we were filmed boarding the aircraft, then of course I had to get out again to get the bloody production crew in as well. At Bathurst Island the vet and his assistant had to be filmed getting out of the aircraft. Then I had to do a circuit so the aircraft could be filmed landing. Then they all departed for the community for the day.

Bathurst Island at the time didn't have lights and last light was starting to get close and I didn't have the number for the director's assistant. So ring Darwin, they only had the production house number in Sydney. Ring them. Get the assistant's number. Ring her - get one very peed off lady who wants to do serious damage to the director as he is being totally pretentious about filming his magnum opus. Advise her that if they aren't back in 30 minutes were on the island for the night. Some serious swearing followed followed by..."we'll be there".

I thought, great - it will work out well. Oh no, when director arrives he wants to film more scenes of boarding etc. I give him a time limit at which the look on his face can only be described as one who has been told that his favourite cafe is out of coffee and has been served tea instead.

Thankfully, the 402 is tightly cowled and temps come up quickly. We got airborne with only a minute or two to spare. The episode never went to air. It wound up on Channel 7 web site only. So much for the 15 minutes of fame.

Those film crews used to really irritate me. If only they knew how close they came to getting a very large Avgas nozzle shoved up their rear ends!
Also remember one day standing out of sight of the camera crew behind another aircraft & making the pilot of the mail run plane laugh by making obscene hand gestures which conveyed what I thought of them, which resulted in them having to shoot the scene a few more times. Revenge is sweet sometimes!

DF.

gerry111 5th Jul 2017 14:57


Originally Posted by PLovett (Post 9821424)
We had to walk out to the aircraft 3 times being filled from behind

I guess that starring in GA free to air TV was far more challenging than I'd expected. :ooh:

Desert Flower 5th Jul 2017 22:18


Originally Posted by gerry111 (Post 9821548)
I guess that starring in GA free to air TV was far more challenging than I'd expected. :ooh:

Gerry, some of the camera crew that irritated me did come close to being "filled from behind" - with a large Avgas nozzle! ;)

DF.

outnabout 5th Jul 2017 23:06

Gerry, I too had no idea such opportunities existed. The cynics amongst us might even suggest that being in GA is good preparation to participate in such activities. Just BYO pineapple?

The results might not be shown on free to air Telly, though.

PLovett 6th Jul 2017 10:12


Originally Posted by gerry111 (Post 9821548)
I guess that starring in GA free to air TV was far more challenging than I'd expected. :ooh:

I blame age, red wine and late hour. Thats my story and I'm sticking to it. :hmm:


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