Jetstar Cadet mid 2017 Intake
Hello all,
I am currently applying for the Jetstar Cadet 2017 Intake. Reading a lot on these forums I am seeing a lot potentially scary pitfalls but I've decided to apply anyway, see how far I go, and figure it out from there. Before University I really wanted to train to be a pilot, but simply did not have the finances. Now I'm just turned 29, and having worked a few years in engineering, I have saved up just enough to pay for the $145k training cost. Just a few things I want to get some opinions on if possible: 1 - Would Jetstar consider 29 to be too old? 2 - While Jetstar says zero aviation experience required, would they really consider someone with zero experience? 3 - The cost for phase 1 is $145k. Is there a cost for phase 2 (type endorsement)? 4 - The information booklet says employment is not guaranteed. I understand that they have to put this clause in there, but I'm wondering out of all the previous cadets what percentage of them ended up without jobs and why? 5 - Would they start the type endorsement asap after 18 months? I've also read that some cadets had to wait a long time for it. Would be good if I can get some info. My plan is to submit the best application I can and figure it out or decided as I go. Many thanks |
1: no, there have been cadets in their 30's go through the course
2: yep, zero aviation experience required, however a trial introductory at a minimum flight shows that you're keen. 3: phase 2 is the type rating, paid for by the company no debt to yourself 4: All cadets that have successfully completed the course are now employed as either first or second officers 5: Not necessarily, it depends on when they need you to start. Some are lucky and get to do their type rating straight away. Others have had to wait, up to 12-18 months |
mkqq based on what you have stated in your post you would be an excellent candidate for cadet. Being a bit older and having another skill set would be an advantage rather than a disadvantage. Having flown with a lot of the Jetstar cadets my experience has been that cadets with similar backgrounds to yours are easier to fly with on the line.
Best of luck with your application. |
Sorry I didn't realise my threaded ended in up this section of the forum.
Thanks for the positive responses. I'm actually doing an introductory flight this coming Saturday. Planning to submit the application this weekend as well. |
I'm going to apply too. I'm 'mature age' (a few years senior to the OP) and although I've heard the downsides to the cadetship I believe nothing ventured nothing gained. I've got my PPL and a several hundred hours ... something in me expects that to be seen as a bad thing :(
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Hang on, hang on airbumps, you had exceptional training on that PPL ;)
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Ha! I expect once they hear who trained me they'll offer me a job in the left seat!
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HI
Just wondering those who have applied the program receive any invitation for the assessment ? Cheers |
Yes today. Also does anyone have any tips for the SAT test?
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I also got an invite to attend the SAT.
I'm in a state of panic now as the latest date on the list is 18th April, but it is sold out. Unfortunately as I don't live in Melbourne the 18th is the earliest I can get there. Will they arrange further dates? I spoke to CAE today regarding another question and I was told that it just has to be "late April". The previous email also advises that the latest date the invitations will be sent out is the 20th April, hence it doesn't make sense to have the last day as the 18th. Desperately hoping there will further dates! |
I got an email earlier in the week saying your application is being processed but am yet to hear anything further. The email also stated offers would be sent out until the 20th of April.
I only submitted my application on Monday. |
Anyone heard anything back from the SAT? I suppose if you were successful in the SAT you'll get the invite this week as the next phase starts on the 1st May which is next week.
The last SAT session was on Thursday last week. |
Anyone doing part 2 of the SAT Thursday the 4th?
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Hey CIH,
Have you heard back since the part 2? |
And to add, feel free to contact me via my email on my profile.
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Originally Posted by nightaye
(Post 9787846)
Hey CIH,
Have you heard back since the part 2? |
Anyone keen to share whether or not they got through to the Jetstar Panel Interview?
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There's been people accepted into the program. The rest will just have to wait for the successful applicants to accept before the rejections are sent out.
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I was also a part of the part 2 held at Oxford CAE and haven't heard back yet. For those of you who are wondering about this course in regard to the next intake (2018), don't be too disheartened if they say no to you. Again, like many users on pprune who've applied for other cadetships and QF or JQ DE jobs- God knows what they want, so don't take it as a reflection or commentary of you as a person or your ability.
Here are my observations from this entire testing process: ADAPT test is a fair tool to assess the suitability of an individual towards a career as a pilot. It comprises of sections on mathematics, physics, logic/psychometric, flight sim and behavioural questionnaire. Most parts were challenging however the mathematics part was extremely elementary and not what I was expecting. One of the questions were HOW MANY HOURS IN 3 DAYS. You've got to be kidding me right? Part Two of the testing was a bunch of group activities and individual interviews. Was I disappointed in the entire process? Yes. Instead of an emphasis on skill, problem solving, the ability to stay calm under pressure and logic, there was too much of an emphasis on how you get along with others, even if they're wrong as hell. Be prepared for a lot of TELL US ABOUT A TIME WHEN... Damned if you do and damned if you don't. |
Even though I agree with this, as it is very true indeed;
Originally Posted by a3222222
(Post 9794550)
For those of you who are wondering about this course in regard to the next intake (2018), don't be too disheartened if they say no to you... so don't take it as a reflection or commentary of you as a person or your ability.
Originally Posted by a3222222
(Post 9794550)
Instead of an emphasis on skill, problem solving, the ability to stay calm under pressure and logic, there was too much of an emphasis on how you get along with others , even if they're wrong as hell.
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A3222,
Sounds like the Jetstar Cadetship is a bit low brow for you. Have you thought about applying for the Mars One Mission? |
The strangest thing about the whole process was being told at the part 2 assessment that 'your aviation experience has no bearing on today' (or words to that effect) and 'aviation experience will give you no advantage over other candidates.
Perhaps they just said that to create the impression of a level playing field for people with 0 flying hours. Or perhaps CAE truly did not care for any of your aviation experience. Seems rather odd to me. 'Hi, we're interviewing you for a role as a pilot but we don't care about your experience as a pilot.' |
Originally Posted by CIH
(Post 9796302)
The strangest thing about the whole process was being told at the part 2 assessment that 'your aviation experience has no bearing on today' (or words to that effect) and 'aviation experience will give you no advantage over other candidates.
Perhaps they just said that to create the impression of a level playing field for people with 0 flying hours. Or perhaps CAE truly did not care for any of your aviation experience. Seems rather odd to me. 'Hi, we're interviewing you for a role as a pilot but we don't care about your experience as a pilot.' Having 5, 10, 20... hours now won't make much difference by the time you get checked to line. |
Originally Posted by Airbus A320321
(Post 9797126)
It's an Ab Initio cadet program. They're assessing your soft skills (teamwork, communication, stress management...) to see if you have these basic attributes to become an effective part of an airline flight crew.
Having 5, 10, 20... hours now won't make much difference by the time you get checked to line. |
Originally Posted by CIH
(Post 9797134)
I agree with you as far as flying hours are concerned. Although outside of your flying hours, your other aviation experience should certainly be relevant. School studies, experiences, exposure to the industry, volunteer work etc. Apparently all disregarded.
I applied for the program and everyone I met was studying something aviation related (eg dual degree in aviation and business, or had some flight hours) or involved in aviation in some other form (baggage handlers and flight attendants). |
Got my SAT/ADAPT test coming up soon.
Can anyone give me a rundown of what it contains other than what it lists on their website? Like some example questions if you remember any? |
In regards to the SAT testing, I never did physics; and my maths knowledge while excellent in high school, is no longer great unfortunately. What kind of questions can I expect to be asked? And is there any way I can study up?
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Would you know when we get notified if we made it to part 2 or not? Has anyone already been notified?
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Originally Posted by a3222222
(Post 9794550)
Was I disappointed in the entire process? Yes.
Instead of an emphasis on skill, problem solving, the ability to stay calm under pressure and logic, there was too much of an emphasis on how you get along with others, even if they're wrong as hell. |
I sat my skills asesment on the 7th of September and the lady supervising the test said that it would take 3-4 weeks to get an email regarding whether you were successful or not. I'm assuming it'd be any day now that we'd here from Jetstar for those that sat the test about a month ago. Has anybody heard anything yet?
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Originally Posted by a3222222
(Post 9794550)
Instead of an emphasis on skill, problem solving, the ability to stay calm under pressure and logic, there was too much of an emphasis on how you get along with others, even if they're wrong as hell.
Be prepared for a lot of TELL US ABOUT A TIME WHEN... Damned if you do and damned if you don't. I agree with you sometimes the panel can be tedious but flying the plane is the easy part. |
I also attended the assessments on September 7th and waiting to hear...
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Same here lads. By looking at the ticketing on Eventbrite, they have opened up heaps more SAT testing sessions that span right until the end of October :)
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Originally Posted by nickgg
(Post 9914873)
I also attended the assessments on September 7th and waiting to hear...
The group and individual interviews are more then likely going to occur late Nov/early Dec to allow HSC (or equivalent) exams to be completed. Stretch:ok: |
Has anyone received a response re: the group/individual interview stage yet?
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Be prepared for a lot of TELL US ABOUT A TIME WHEN... |
Originally Posted by brucelee
(Post 9934568)
Has anyone received a response re: the group/individual interview stage yet?
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I believe the last computer assessment day was scheduled for the 18th Oct. Candidates should find out shortly if they are invited to the next phase of the process.
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Not me yet, I guess they’ll tell us if we haven’t progressed to the next stage aswell.
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Originally Posted by Spruce_Goose
(Post 9936969)
Received an invitation yesterday for the 30th of November. Anyone else?
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