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mkqq 25th Mar 2017 10:05

Jetstar Cadet mid 2017 Intake
 
Hello all,

I am currently applying for the Jetstar Cadet 2017 Intake. Reading a lot on these forums I am seeing a lot potentially scary pitfalls but I've decided to apply anyway, see how far I go, and figure it out from there.

Before University I really wanted to train to be a pilot, but simply did not have the finances. Now I'm just turned 29, and having worked a few years in engineering, I have saved up just enough to pay for the $145k training cost.

Just a few things I want to get some opinions on if possible:

1 - Would Jetstar consider 29 to be too old?

2 - While Jetstar says zero aviation experience required, would they really consider someone with zero experience?

3 - The cost for phase 1 is $145k. Is there a cost for phase 2 (type endorsement)?

4 - The information booklet says employment is not guaranteed. I understand that they have to put this clause in there, but I'm wondering out of all the previous cadets what percentage of them ended up without jobs and why?

5 - Would they start the type endorsement asap after 18 months? I've also read that some cadets had to wait a long time for it.

Would be good if I can get some info. My plan is to submit the best application I can and figure it out or decided as I go.

Many thanks

Airbus A320321 25th Mar 2017 10:51

1: no, there have been cadets in their 30's go through the course
2: yep, zero aviation experience required, however a trial introductory at a minimum flight shows that you're keen.
3: phase 2 is the type rating, paid for by the company no debt to yourself
4: All cadets that have successfully completed the course are now employed as either first or second officers
5: Not necessarily, it depends on when they need you to start. Some are lucky and get to do their type rating straight away. Others have had to wait, up to 12-18 months

Lookleft 26th Mar 2017 03:56

mkqq based on what you have stated in your post you would be an excellent candidate for cadet. Being a bit older and having another skill set would be an advantage rather than a disadvantage. Having flown with a lot of the Jetstar cadets my experience has been that cadets with similar backgrounds to yours are easier to fly with on the line.

Best of luck with your application.

mkqq 30th Mar 2017 13:54

Sorry I didn't realise my threaded ended in up this section of the forum.

Thanks for the positive responses. I'm actually doing an introductory flight this coming Saturday. Planning to submit the application this weekend as well.

AirBumps 31st Mar 2017 10:00

I'm going to apply too. I'm 'mature age' (a few years senior to the OP) and although I've heard the downsides to the cadetship I believe nothing ventured nothing gained. I've got my PPL and a several hundred hours ... something in me expects that to be seen as a bad thing :(

The name is Porter 31st Mar 2017 10:02

Hang on, hang on airbumps, you had exceptional training on that PPL ;)

AirBumps 31st Mar 2017 13:01

Ha! I expect once they hear who trained me they'll offer me a job in the left seat!

kathy jones 6th Apr 2017 08:51

HI

Just wondering those who have applied the program receive any invitation for the assessment ?

Cheers

log0008 6th Apr 2017 09:13

Yes today. Also does anyone have any tips for the SAT test?

mkqq 6th Apr 2017 13:30

I also got an invite to attend the SAT.

I'm in a state of panic now as the latest date on the list is 18th April, but it is sold out. Unfortunately as I don't live in Melbourne the 18th is the earliest I can get there.

Will they arrange further dates?

I spoke to CAE today regarding another question and I was told that it just has to be "late April". The previous email also advises that the latest date the invitations will be sent out is the 20th April, hence it doesn't make sense to have the last day as the 18th.

Desperately hoping there will further dates!

AirBumps 7th Apr 2017 04:33

I got an email earlier in the week saying your application is being processed but am yet to hear anything further. The email also stated offers would be sent out until the 20th of April.

I only submitted my application on Monday.

mkqq 24th Apr 2017 06:05

Anyone heard anything back from the SAT? I suppose if you were successful in the SAT you'll get the invite this week as the next phase starts on the 1st May which is next week.

The last SAT session was on Thursday last week.

CIH 2nd May 2017 07:19

Anyone doing part 2 of the SAT Thursday the 4th?

nightaye 31st May 2017 01:31

Hey CIH,

Have you heard back since the part 2?

nightaye 31st May 2017 05:24

And to add, feel free to contact me via my email on my profile.

CIH 1st Jun 2017 01:47


Originally Posted by nightaye (Post 9787846)
Hey CIH,

Have you heard back since the part 2?

Sent you an email.

a3222222 6th Jun 2017 09:25

Anyone keen to share whether or not they got through to the Jetstar Panel Interview?

notabove500 6th Jun 2017 11:19

There's been people accepted into the program. The rest will just have to wait for the successful applicants to accept before the rejections are sent out.

a3222222 6th Jun 2017 15:07

I was also a part of the part 2 held at Oxford CAE and haven't heard back yet. For those of you who are wondering about this course in regard to the next intake (2018), don't be too disheartened if they say no to you. Again, like many users on pprune who've applied for other cadetships and QF or JQ DE jobs- God knows what they want, so don't take it as a reflection or commentary of you as a person or your ability.

Here are my observations from this entire testing process:
ADAPT test is a fair tool to assess the suitability of an individual towards a career as a pilot. It comprises of sections on mathematics, physics, logic/psychometric, flight sim and behavioural questionnaire.
Most parts were challenging however the mathematics part was extremely elementary and not what I was expecting.
One of the questions were HOW MANY HOURS IN 3 DAYS. You've got to be kidding me right?

Part Two of the testing was a bunch of group activities and individual interviews.

Was I disappointed in the entire process? Yes.
Instead of an emphasis on skill, problem solving, the ability to stay calm under pressure and logic, there was too much of an emphasis on how you get along with others, even if they're wrong as hell.

Be prepared for a lot of TELL US ABOUT A TIME WHEN...
Damned if you do and damned if you don't.

Jabberwocky82 6th Jun 2017 22:40

Even though I agree with this, as it is very true indeed;

Originally Posted by a3222222 (Post 9794550)
For those of you who are wondering about this course in regard to the next intake (2018), don't be too disheartened if they say no to you... so don't take it as a reflection or commentary of you as a person or your ability.

Is this not one of the most important bits to make a conducive working environment?

Originally Posted by a3222222 (Post 9794550)
Instead of an emphasis on skill, problem solving, the ability to stay calm under pressure and logic, there was too much of an emphasis on how you get along with others , even if they're wrong as hell.


j3pipercub 7th Jun 2017 13:02

A3222,

Sounds like the Jetstar Cadetship is a bit low brow for you. Have you thought about applying for the Mars One Mission?

CIH 8th Jun 2017 09:08

The strangest thing about the whole process was being told at the part 2 assessment that 'your aviation experience has no bearing on today' (or words to that effect) and 'aviation experience will give you no advantage over other candidates.

Perhaps they just said that to create the impression of a level playing field for people with 0 flying hours. Or perhaps CAE truly did not care for any of your aviation experience.

Seems rather odd to me. 'Hi, we're interviewing you for a role as a pilot but we don't care about your experience as a pilot.'

Airbus A320321 9th Jun 2017 05:29


Originally Posted by CIH (Post 9796302)
The strangest thing about the whole process was being told at the part 2 assessment that 'your aviation experience has no bearing on today' (or words to that effect) and 'aviation experience will give you no advantage over other candidates.

Perhaps they just said that to create the impression of a level playing field for people with 0 flying hours. Or perhaps CAE truly did not care for any of your aviation experience.

Seems rather odd to me. 'Hi, we're interviewing you for a role as a pilot but we don't care about your experience as a pilot.'

It's an Ab Initio cadet program. They're assessing your soft skills (teamwork, communication, stress management...) to see if you have these basic attributes to become an effective part of an airline flight crew.

Having 5, 10, 20... hours now won't make much difference by the time you get checked to line.

CIH 9th Jun 2017 05:43


Originally Posted by Airbus A320321 (Post 9797126)
It's an Ab Initio cadet program. They're assessing your soft skills (teamwork, communication, stress management...) to see if you have these basic attributes to become an effective part of an airline flight crew.

Having 5, 10, 20... hours now won't make much difference by the time you get checked to line.

I agree with you as far as flying hours are concerned. Although outside of your flying hours, your other aviation experience should certainly be relevant. School studies, experiences, exposure to the industry, volunteer work etc. Apparently all disregarded.

DogDaysAreOver 12th Jun 2017 12:03


Originally Posted by CIH (Post 9797134)
I agree with you as far as flying hours are concerned. Although outside of your flying hours, your other aviation experience should certainly be relevant. School studies, experiences, exposure to the industry, volunteer work etc. Apparently all disregarded.

Where did you hear this from?

I applied for the program and everyone I met was studying something aviation related (eg dual degree in aviation and business, or had some flight hours) or involved in aviation in some other form (baggage handlers and flight attendants).

frostyvb14 8th Sep 2017 05:36

Got my SAT/ADAPT test coming up soon.
Can anyone give me a rundown of what it contains other than what it lists on their website? Like some example questions if you remember any?

wes94 9th Sep 2017 11:05

In regards to the SAT testing, I never did physics; and my maths knowledge while excellent in high school, is no longer great unfortunately. What kind of questions can I expect to be asked? And is there any way I can study up?

frostyvb14 24th Sep 2017 06:18

Would you know when we get notified if we made it to part 2 or not? Has anyone already been notified?

das Uber Soldat 27th Sep 2017 22:49


Originally Posted by a3222222 (Post 9794550)
Was I disappointed in the entire process? Yes.
Instead of an emphasis on skill, problem solving, the ability to stay calm under pressure and logic, there was too much of an emphasis on how you get along with others, even if they're wrong as hell.

Yeh, what do they know about the skillset required to operate in an airline. I've heard Georgina might be moving on soon, maybe that role would be more suitable given your obvious deep insight?

bchappell17 4th Oct 2017 10:52

I sat my skills asesment on the 7th of September and the lady supervising the test said that it would take 3-4 weeks to get an email regarding whether you were successful or not. I'm assuming it'd be any day now that we'd here from Jetstar for those that sat the test about a month ago. Has anybody heard anything yet?

Jbrownie 4th Oct 2017 15:17


Originally Posted by a3222222 (Post 9794550)
Instead of an emphasis on skill, problem solving, the ability to stay calm under pressure and logic, there was too much of an emphasis on how you get along with others, even if they're wrong as hell.

Be prepared for a lot of TELL US ABOUT A TIME WHEN...
Damned if you do and damned if you don't.

Lol. Its because skill, crm all that jazz can be taught and learnt over time. What they cannot teach or something that cannot be changed easily is your personality and attitude...

I agree with you sometimes the panel can be tedious but flying the plane is the easy part.

nickgg 5th Oct 2017 08:08

I also attended the assessments on September 7th and waiting to hear...

Spruce_Goose 5th Oct 2017 22:52

Same here lads. By looking at the ticketing on Eventbrite, they have opened up heaps more SAT testing sessions that span right until the end of October :)

Stretch06 11th Oct 2017 20:24


Originally Posted by nickgg (Post 9914873)
I also attended the assessments on September 7th and waiting to hear...

I've been advised that no one will receive any advice until all the SAT assessments are complete. I believe the last assessments are booked for 18th Oct.

The group and individual interviews are more then likely going to occur late Nov/early Dec to allow HSC (or equivalent) exams to be completed.

Stretch:ok:

brucelee 24th Oct 2017 01:12

Has anyone received a response re: the group/individual interview stage yet?

YPJT 24th Oct 2017 01:52


Be prepared for a lot of TELL US ABOUT A TIME WHEN...
Yup standard HR drivel that we have to use during interviews as well. I guess it just creates a level playing field by treating everyone as a numpty.

nickgg 24th Oct 2017 02:25


Originally Posted by brucelee (Post 9934568)
Has anyone received a response re: the group/individual interview stage yet?

No, nothing yet myself...

Stretch06 24th Oct 2017 07:38

I believe the last computer assessment day was scheduled for the 18th Oct. Candidates should find out shortly if they are invited to the next phase of the process.

bchappell17 26th Oct 2017 20:13

Not me yet, I guess they’ll tell us if we haven’t progressed to the next stage aswell.

brucelee 26th Oct 2017 20:34


Originally Posted by Spruce_Goose (Post 9936969)
Received an invitation yesterday for the 30th of November. Anyone else?

Congrats Spruce :ok: Do you mind me asking did you get a phone call or email?


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