C172 Down on Middle Island
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Was flying through the ATC sectors near this shortly after it happened today. Well done to the controller on 124.1/119.55 for coordinating the numerous rescue aircraft and accurately relaying messages between the various parties. It was a confronting listen but calmly handled and he didn't miss a beat with the other aircraft on frequency either. A job very well done.
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What sort of tourism activities?
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Doesn't it say that they take campers to the island?
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Wow - what a mess. Surprised there was only one fatality.
DF. |
Where does it say CFIT? :ugh:
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Beaches usually have cross winds and a soft sand patch can ruin your day. The aircraft looks to me like it cartwheeled into a dune. What a sad outcome.
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From the latest photo on the ABC website, it looks like the aircraft may have come through the scrub from the land side, perpendicular to the beach, then slid/crashed down the dune. The operative word here is MAY, just putting a possible scenario out there.
Prop looks like it wasn't producing much thrust, if any. |
Actually, it looks like the initial impact/touchdown point at the waterline.
It was also quite noticeable in one of the media videos. |
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ATSB Initial: AO-2017-005.
Type of operation: General Aviation Unknown. |
Where does it say CFIT? |
Reading this story, Bruce your a hero as well.
RW From Western times http://http://www.westerntimes.com.au/news/afraid-plane-owner-reveals-moments-fatal-crash/3130730/ IN AN exclusive interview with The Observer, owner of 1770 Castaway Bruce Rhoades hailed his "best mate" Les 'Woody' Woodall a hero after the plane he was flying crashed into the sand at Middle Island. The crash left a 29-year-old UK woman dead and two others in critical condition, including Woody, who was taken to the Intensive Care Unit at Bundaberg Hospital with head, chest and spinal injuries. |
Courier Mail has the busted aircraft as a Cirrus SR 22. Aint never seen a strutted Cirrus yet.
Dont these dopey journalists know that all aircraft that crash are Cessnas ! |
Originally Posted by aroa
(Post 9638118)
Courier Mail has the busted aircraft as a Cirrus SR 22. Aint never seen a strutted Cirrus yet.
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A quick pootube search of Agnes Water Flights or 1770 flights will show you what these flights generally get up to.
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Originally Posted by rioncentu
(Post 9638996)
A quick pootube search of Agnes Water Flights or 1770 flights will show you what these flights generally get up to.
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Yes squawk I think it is relevant as 2 separate posts earlier above discussed/asked what sort of tourist activities are being done and I was simply answering those posts.
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Originally Posted by rioncentu
(Post 9639176)
Yes squawk I think it is relevant as 2 separate posts earlier above discussed/asked what sort of tourist activities are being done and I was simply answering those posts.
DF. |
I do.
(More characters needed to post reply)... so "characters" are the operative word. EDIT to add: There are "compliant" characters and "protected" characters and then just "characters" and sometimes just "operators". |
Originally Posted by Frank Arouet
(Post 9639284)
I do.
(More characters needed to post reply)... so "characters" are the operative word. EDIT to add: There are "compliant" characters and "protected" characters and then just "characters" and sometimes just "operators". DF. |
Originally Posted by Desert Flower
(Post 9639299)
So you believe that what they generally get up to contributed to the engine failure in this accident?
DF. |
The pilot quoted engine failure to the media (allegedly).
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Where does it say CFIT? who said it was a CFIT? ATSB report stated collision with terrain. It looks to me like engine failure, a low level turn to make it onto the beach followed by a stall during a probable steep turn. |
If you watch what's in the links posted above, the pilot said that he was going to put it down on the edge of the water but was concerned about drowning his passengers so headed for the land instead and whacked the dunes.
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You are right, but I thought for such extensive damage to occur would have involved a low level drop, followed by a cartwheel.
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Desert Flower: No.
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Originally Posted by Desert Flower
(Post 9639187)
I haven't looked at the videos, but regardless of "what these flights generally get up to" I don't believe they have any relevance to the accident in question.
DF. I got to 20s. That was enough. |
Hmm yeah you reckon you would edit out the cardboard box ingestion!
I hadn't seen that one. |
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Originally Posted by Cloudee
(Post 9647115)
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theres quite a few vids like that
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Seems like CASA may have acted. From the 1770 charter web page.
27Jan17: 1770 Castaway regret to advise that we have cancelled all tours until further notice. We have only been given the advice today & apologize to all customers for cancelling their much anticipated experience. Currently booked passengers are to contact their travel agent in regards to refunds or if you have booked directly with us, then contact us directly. |
Final report out. https://www.atsb.gov.au/publications...r/ao-2017-005/ |
Carry out a landing inspection in a landing direction. Good idea.
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Wow what a depressing report. So many bad actions and carelessness and I am only 25 pages in 😟
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It's also very sad that Bruce (the Chief Pilot) passed away only last month.
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I thought the paragrahs about missing recording devices was...interesting. |
It’s frustrating when the ATSB gets bogged down with these things. Does it make any difference to the investigation? Maybe! Do they need to even mention it in the report? No. It has no bearing on the accident and makes no difference to me as a reader. The ATSB seem to get easily distracted! |
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