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Sunfish 6th Dec 2016 23:25

Another Establishment About To Close?
 
A certain helicopter operator is going to get the Friday afternoon fax pulling the AOC on Christmas Eve from what I've heard.

Deserved or not, timing this stuff to coincide with major holidays is an infantile lawyers game that should be beneath an alleged Government instrumentality.

Band a Lot 6th Dec 2016 23:49

Low life's perform low life acts!

Styx75 7th Dec 2016 00:23

Disconnect the fax friday morning?

Band a Lot 7th Dec 2016 00:54

It is actually a email these days.

But to keep with the very long tradition of the CASA Friday Arvo Fax!


We still call "that email" a fax out of respect for the dead.

Styx75 7th Dec 2016 01:59

Either way, what happens if you "didnt receive it until Tuesday"?

Ixixly 7th Dec 2016 02:39

Generally Styx75, a lot of emails can have a "Receipt of Email" attached to it, basically they send it and the moment you open it it'll send another email back automatically acknowledging it has been opened. I'm not 100% sure of the ins and outs of that sort of thing but from what I understand it's not hard to implement and I'm sure they probably would have something similar.

But regardless, it's exactly this sort of sneaky, underhanded BS that has completely destroyed any trust between CAsA and the Industry.

megan 7th Dec 2016 02:57

They did the same thing with Hardy's in Darwin four years ago. Must be in their SOP manual. :sad:

yoobeedo 7th Dec 2016 06:01

Any hints. Which operator?

27/09 7th Dec 2016 07:14


It is actually a email these days.

But to keep with the very long tradition of the CASA Friday Arvo Fax!


We still call "that email" a fax out of respect for the dead.
Would be a real bugger if it ended up in the Junk Mail folder. :E

Car RAMROD 7th Dec 2016 07:41

Megan, I thought Hardy's misinterpreted the letter and they stopped all operations when they didn't actually have to.

It was a little while ago and the memory is foggy.

Band a Lot 7th Dec 2016 08:08

"I thought Hardy's misinterpreted the letter and they stopped all operations when they didn't actually have to"

I believe this is wrong, but a incorrect report to the media from CASA. The senior person I knew at Hardy's with the letter on their desk had no misinterpretation as to grounded or not - if it were in fact true it would not have been sent after CASA closing hours = 4.22 pm

Chef Bruz 7th Dec 2016 21:28

sending an email is legally the same as sending a letter...

Squawk7700 7th Dec 2016 21:30


sending an email is legally the same as sending a letter...
Do you have a reference for this?

tail wheel 7th Dec 2016 21:47

Yes.

Electronic Transactions Act 1999 (C'wealth) I believe?

This may also be relevant: https://www.casa.gov.au/standard-pag...ing-electronic

parabellum 7th Dec 2016 22:11

In Outlook it is possible to request a 'delivered' message, which means it is on their server or a 'read' message which has to be initiated by the recipient when they open it (and may not be initiated). However, it is also possible for a server to be rigged to not acknowledge any messages and to only send a "We do not acknowledge message being read" auto message, like our ever helpful Shire office!

Squawk7700 7th Dec 2016 22:19

Delivery receipts are not reliable as the user can send or choose not to send.

A service like "Read notify" would be better. Tells you when it was received, opened, from where and also those it was forwarded to.

tail wheel 8th Dec 2016 01:18

I think you will find that having agreed or consented to receive electronic communications, when an email is sent to the email address you provided, the communication is considered delivered.

Duck Pilot 8th Dec 2016 08:46

So who's in the sight hairs Sunny? Spill the beans!

Baseless thread without any facts, or is this just an excuse for another CASA bashing exercise?

Sunfish 8th Dec 2016 19:43

Wait and see Ducky.

thunderbird five 23rd Dec 2016 03:38

The clock is still ticking down.
Would not surprise me in the least if it actually comes true. Usual christmas present for someone in industry.
SOP:
3:59pm: Reach for the "send" button over the office partition with a broomstick from the waiting elevator?


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