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dr dre 12th Sep 2016 06:23

Whilst the flying scenes were technically accurate, the decision to write the crash investigators in as the "villains" ruined it for me. It makes for good storytelling, but for accuracy it throws out the good work done on the crash itself.
And outside of the crash scene, I honestly found it a bit boring. There's no real character development, tension or drama, and sort of ends on a flat note.
There's probably been aviation incidents involving pilots nursing crippled aircraft safely back to earth that would lend themselves to a better script. Not a bad film in itself, but not one I'd consider to be a aviation classic.

Density 13th Sep 2016 05:16

Dr Dre

I tend to agree with you. At one stage I was looking around the theatre seeing if there was anything else more interesting. I sort of think that a more apt title could have been yielded. i'm sure the man himself would agree that it wasn't just him the resulted in the survival of all involved.

airtags 14th Sep 2016 01:06

best 90 minute safety video I've never seen!

5th officer 14th Sep 2016 04:25

Sully the Hero?
 
I agree about this being a movie I would not pay to see, we have seen the outcome countless times so there is very little to anticipate and certainly not a surprise ending, also the term hero worries me somewhat. The water landing was brilliant but how the crew arrived at this point is of some concern.
Although I have taught many crews the never turn back procedures over the years in this case there may have been some merit. After having both engines stuffed with wild geese I am not sure spending time descending whilst flying away from the nearest airport and attempting a restart was the best action.
I have always wondered if the NTSB carried out simulator re-enactments to see if it was feasible, in my day with an 18 degree climb profile and a 3 degree approach profile there is a good chance the height loss in the turn could have worked?
But I suppose it is easy to be wise after the event when saying this sitting at the computer and not sweating it out at the controls.

Ollie Onion 14th Sep 2016 07:38

^^^ If your assumption that an immediate return would work then proved to be wrong after you had committed to the turn then this could have killed hundreds of people. That is a massive gamble to make without taking 30 seconds to think about it and assess the situation by which time the decision is made for you, I am sure if it was flat land/water between them and the airport as opposed to one of the most densely populated bits of land in North America then a turn may have been attempted I suspect.

bentleg 14th Sep 2016 08:12

Best movie I have seen for a long time!

josephfeatherweight 14th Sep 2016 10:20

Yep, I thoroughly enjoyed it too!

Hogger60 14th Sep 2016 10:33

Excellent movie.

5th Officer, you should see this. You sound just like the NTSB investigators in the movie.

Metro man 14th Sep 2016 12:34

Worth seeing, shouldn't have taken the wife along though.

zkdli 15th Sep 2016 03:28

Best aviation movie in years, a very good insight to survivors guilt and a true view of the investigation from Sully's perspective. Ok the NTSB May have issues with how they are portrayed but as an investigator I have to say that I have seen some spectacularly bad ways of interviewing and this film shows some of them. The film really stands up CVR AND ATC transcripts were used verbatim so no Obviously wrong dialogue! Just Merican rt :)

currawong 15th Sep 2016 03:54

Metro, I often say the same thing myself....

Centaurus 16th Sep 2016 06:08

In another era I often flew Cessna singles with students from Essendon to various training areas. Usual initial track was Essendon direct to Westgate Bridge. The nearby Marylebone River was parallel to our track most of the time. My advice to students was if an engine failure happened and it wasn't possible to comfortably glide to Moonee Valley or Flemington Racecourses, then a ditching into the river was the way to go rather than risk trying to land at local sports grounds. Also not far to swim to the banks of the river. :ok:

propnut 16th Sep 2016 20:27

I've read his book

Highest Duty

I'm sure I will be disappointed with the movie, but i have to see it :)

Squawk7700 16th Sep 2016 20:55

If you haven't seen the movie yet, make sure you stay right to the end after the credits start where they speak to the real pilot, passengers and family. You'll then realise that some of the actors are the real life survivors and or others from the event.

Don't do what half of the movie-goers did when I saw it and leave too early.

PoppaJo 17th Sep 2016 00:45

Big involvement from US Airways in the production which explains the accuracy.

Sim pilots in film were actually check and training captains with the carrier.

Charlotte-based pilot helped Clint Eastwood get flight simulator scenes right in ?Sully? | The Charlotte Observer

troppo 17th Sep 2016 04:41

Suspension of disbelief. It's a movie...sure some ad lib/poetic licence to make it into candyfloss for the audience and sell tickets.
Even with a cold, dark heart, I found it moving and chilling in places...not since Watership down when I was but a child....
See if he gets an Oscar...

gerry111 17th Sep 2016 12:04

Centaurus, Always a good informative read from you.

But "The nearby Marylebone River.." cannot pass without a comment..

Perhaps Maribyrnong River? For most here are possibly living in Orstralia? :ok:

Hempy 17th Sep 2016 12:29

Couldn't be the Maribyrnong. The health issues would be less if you tried to put it down on the Tulla during peak hour rather than risk getting that water into your system!

Centaurus 17th Sep 2016 13:53


But "The nearby Marylebone River.." cannot pass without a comment..

Perhaps Maribyrnong River? For most here are possibly living in Orstralia?

Thanks Gerry,
Just testing the readers of course:ok: Mea culpa though. :ugh:

harrowing 18th Sep 2016 07:19

The FAs wandering around within a minute of take-off seemed out of the ordinary, otherwise an excellent film without too much Hollywood cringe factor.:D


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