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topdrop 10th Mar 2017 10:52


Practice does make perfect and that is why the old operator conducted loads of land and marine drops for practice, I believe the new operator will be doing this training in the Sim (correct me if I am wrong someone).
They have been doing quite a bit of training around Cairns, though the type of training I do not know.

Band a Lot 10th Mar 2017 11:45

So it moves?

FMTAfterburn 11th Mar 2017 00:34

What successful drop
 

Originally Posted by Band a Lot (Post 9701704)
So it moves?

RSCU 660 dropped at lease 4 items to that yacht, nothing was retrieved, there were also 3 black Hawks and 1 c130 on task, such was the confidence in the jet doing something useful.
As for comments on the tender, the Cobham bid was 10 Mil per annum more expensive than the stated budget in the tender. If the actual budget was that high then no doubt we would have had a fleet of new aircraft, not second hand jets.
Does anyone want to take about the problems with sensors, integration and comms, including the bits of kit that have not been provided as promised such as VIDAR and cell locate. These teething problems are probably going to be solved, but at this stage implentation is 12 months behind schedule.
Turning up for a SAR is one thing, doing what you said you can do is another. A bit early for a pat on the back, you have a long path ahead of you Cobham.
Ch

rodney rude 12th Mar 2017 23:16

When the contract was first given to Aerorescue, was it on time, did it all kick off on day one? Were there any teething issues? If so, well done. If not - have the aerorescue guys forgotten this now?

Pettibone 20th Mar 2017 03:13

All five AeroRescue bases commenced service, with contracted capability, on the contracted start dates.

onetrack 20th Mar 2017 06:17

A Challenger 604 has just successfully co-ordinated an RAN rescue of some Saffies from their disabled yacht, 1300kms SW of the lower coast of Western Australia.

ABC News (Aust) - South African men rescued from stricken yacht Jedi 1 off W.A.

bodybag 20th Mar 2017 23:44

What was the useful range of those Dorniers?

continueapproach737 21st Mar 2017 00:57

1000nm from memory

Icarus2001 3rd Apr 2017 08:24

So does that mean all bases up and running and fully operational now?

FMTAfterburn 31st May 2017 06:23

The new standard of special mission ops in Australia
 

Originally Posted by Icarus2001 (Post 9727910)
So does that mean all bases up and running and fully operational now?

Well here we are, 9 months into the contract and a capability that is measured somewhere in the vicinity of less than 50 % contractually compliant. And this is now accepted as the new standard. The aircraft and equipment continues to fall short of Cobhams contracted claims. The crew, what there is of them are looking at their employment options. As a Surveillance/ SAR platform there are plenty of better jet options than the 604. Wake up government, the industry shakes it's head at your selection of company and aircraft.

TBM-Legend 31st May 2017 08:18

....another block of flats for someone in AMSA I guess....

Dashunder 2nd Jun 2017 08:36


Originally Posted by FMTAfterburn (Post 9787974)
Well here we are, 9 months into the contract and a capability that is measured somewhere in the vicinity of less than 50 % contractually compliant. And this is now accepted as the new standard. The aircraft and equipment continues to fall short of Cobhams contracted claims. The crew, what there is of them are looking at their employment options. As a Surveillance/ SAR platform there are plenty of better jet options than the 604. Wake up government, the industry shakes it's head at your selection of company and aircraft.

So what gives FMT, been out of the loop for a few months now and haven't been keeping track, still struggling I assume.

Is Essendon online yet, I would assume they have full crews at all bases by now.

bodybag 2nd Jun 2017 10:57

Get over it mate.. it's all in the past. Everyone else has moved on. When your feeling sad just watch that feel good YouTube video.
In many respects Cobham are doing a much better job. At the very least they have set up a sensible platform (for a nation such as this) from which they can only improve to provide a far superior service. They have already responded to not less than 6 events that were literally beyond the capability of the previous operation (and I'm not only referring to range).
I'm not negating how disappointing it all must have been for previous crew but that's life. My best advice (having been there before) is to move on. Onwards and upwards!

FMTAfterburn 8th Jun 2017 11:40

Hey Dashunder
 
Essendon not online nor is the the 4th aircraft available crew solution is seriously lacking. Yes I've moved on but the principle remains.

tomcat264 8th Jul 2017 13:38


Originally Posted by Snakecharma (Post 9490098)
Well, I watched it land yesterday in Perth on runway 24 and it wasn't on the ground until just after the C intersection. That, for those that don't know Perth, is a bit over half way down the runway and the runway is only 2163m long.

I was waiting for it to go spearing through the end onto the grass, but it didn't.

Your full of **** lol

tomcat264 8th Jul 2017 13:55


Originally Posted by bodybag (Post 9512612)
Wasathangi! How dare you hijack this thread! This space is for disgruntled people who didn't get a job! Don't be coming in here trying to tell us that Cobham are competent or that the 604 is the right machine for the job! A fast intercontinental jet for maritime rescue response in a country like Australia! It doesn't make sense!!

P8 Poseidon is a 737-900 (fast intercontintenal jet) and your going to tell me its no good for maritime patrol??

tomcat264 8th Jul 2017 14:07

FFS enough already STOP BITCHING LIKE A BUNCH OF OLD WOMEN

TBM-Legend 2nd Jan 2018 10:35

Does anyone know where the Dorniers are parked?

Pettibone 3rd Jan 2018 01:39

[QUOTE]Does anyone know where the Dorniers are parked?

Some work has recently been done for the European Border and Coast Guard Agency

PartBananaClap 3rd Jan 2018 07:42


Originally Posted by TBM-Legend (Post 10008002)
Does anyone know where the Dorniers are parked?

1 Parked out front of the Pas hanger today. Seen 3 of them parked up just a few weeks ago.


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