This is a personal opinion on hour requirements. I've not been privy to any discussion with those in charge or even with colleagues involved in the selection process about flying experience.

Minimum hours are simply that. At the end of the day it's the person behind the hours that Qantas is going to be most interested in. A 5000 hour 777 F/O may miss out whilst a 1500 hour Dash F/O gets through. It'll come down to the entirety of the assessment process (and that includes the psych, skills, group exercise, interview, sim, and medical) rather than simply prioritising the person with more hours on the basis of their experience. Probably the only place the extra experience could play a part is in the sim assessment where greater experience may potentially assist.

So I don't want those with either heaps of experience or very little to think that it's going to play a disproportionate role in the selection process. It should come down to whether the individual can do the job and whether they're the right fit. Anything beyond that is superfluous.

If I could sum it up this way. It's no good being an ace pilot with heaps of experience if you're a knob.

Good luck.

Quite a few people in this industry should pay attention to that statement.

Hopefully there'll be spots for regional FO's (like myself) as well as the experienced jet jockeys. They better be ready for an avalanche off applications when they open the doors!

When you hire a pilot, you want to hire someone that could become Chief Pilot or head of check and training in their career with you. So in today's world of Part 61 I feel Qantas will be taking a lot of people that have the appropriate instructor ratings so they can become flight examiner/management down the track when the company needs them rather than having to send people off to do instructor ratings and wasting the time and dollar of the Qantas purse.

No offence but seriously are you relating FI rating to TRI/TRE? How about someone with a bachelor degree instead just like they do in the states? Last time I checked, FI is not a requirement to teach (i.e line training) someone at airlines.

Read Part 61 and 142 then get back to me. Line training you don't but endorsement, IPC, differences are all done by someone with the appropriate flight examiner/instructor rating.

Bugger :E

That being said I know of plenty of knobs who have made their way into airlines over the years, I can only hope Keg you do a better job of sniffing them out than most airlines. There is nothing worse than missing out on a gig than to a pilot who you know should not be in the seat.

As for BWAHAHAHA your thinking 20-30 years away. What good would an instructor rating do for you after 20 years of it sitting idle?

The Check and Training course at Qantas is essentially the same irrespective of whether you're a former military QFI, a former GA flying instructor or a line pilot with no previous flight instruction experience. The only difference i can see is that the person without the instructor rating already on their license needs to do the CASA PMI exam whereas the others do not. Cost saving? 1/100th of bugger all.

Indeed. Psychometric tests and face-to-face interviews will never be foolproof.

Psychometric psychologists are the first to admit that their tests are done a disservice when they are used as a precision tool.

Unfortunately, however, they are VERY cost-effective for modern HR departments when there are far more acceptable applicants than jobs available.

The tests will sometimes reject suitable applicants, accept less desirable ones, and often get it right by giving an acceptable candidate the green light.

Fair with desired outcome? Often not. But that's the rule of that game. Anyone applying would be well advised to be as prepared and as practised in the appropriate psychometric tests as possible.

PG

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Are they taking direct entry A380 captains? Slightly used, very experienced globally. ;)

Yep! Directly into the Second Officer Seat down the bottom of the Seniority list like everyone else!

J* just hired a bunch of turboprop Fo's recently, so I don't see any reason why Qantas wouldn't. I assume it was reasonably competitive for that position too?

Extremely so I believe. Everyone I know is still "under review"

What about all candidates turn up for a pub lunch for a few hours. It would become pretty obvious who is a knob, a right fit, and or, who might be the next chief pilot in the following hours and the process would be complete in half a day. HR not invited.
Good luck everyone.

If you don't hire knobs, how would you ever get any management pilots?

:D

Ahh, but like everything, there's a fix... They just need to do the "knob course"...

Email today confirms the first 10 new recruits start on 16 August. Welcome aboard to those crew.

The original forecast was for circa 70 pilots to be recruited this year. There are rumours (I've heard nothing official though) that it could be as many 10 a month for the foreseeable future. There are also rumours of additional command and F/O slots on the A330 to be advertised to crew shortly and may be related to the rumour of accelerated delivery of the 787s.

Maybe we'll know more about these rumours at the annual results announcement in about a month.

Thanks for the updates Keg, much appreciated!

Couldnt agree more on the 'knob' comment. Some recent examples from the line:

- An A330 Captain elects to 'hand fly' the downwind component of the BOREE arrival onto 34L at the last moment without pre-breifing his F/O. ATC have him cleared to 4000ft. Whilst hand flying, he busts that altitude by 200-300 feet and once called on it by the F/O corrects it eventually. No report on the alititude bust is submitted and as the Captain is one of the training sections 'golden haired children' no action seems to be taken against him.

- A relatively new A330 Captain has taken it upon himself to conduct in depth debriefs of F/O's after each sector. The problem is the 'points' he raises with said F/O's are actually wrong in fact in terms of SOPs, and the F/O actions were actually correct. When the F/O's get out the books and point this out the Captain just shrugs his shoulders.

- Another Captain is a devout Christian and mentions the bible continuously to the F/O's he flys with. This makes many F/O's feel uncomfortable as they do not share his beliefs.

- Finally another Captain is actually despised by nearly every other pilot on the base. Unfortunately because he does not have a peer group, no-one has the heart to tell him the truth....

If there's one thing that gets my goat...

Depends on whether you find that worse than a crew member anonymously slandering others. I'd much prefer a fellow crew member talking honestly about a subject that I've little interest in and managing that appropriately face to face than someone who tells lies behind a colleague's back and doesn't have the cojones to say anything to their face.

Every day of the week I'd take an honest crew member who tells it how it is about what they believe (even if I disagree with them) than an anonymous troll spreading lies.

I'm done reading your lies Mohikan. You can continue to attempt to malign people (and me) with your BS but I won't be reading it anymore. I'll stack my history and record here on PPRUNE (and in Qantas if you're actually a Qantas pilot) against yours anytime. Ignore list it is. My humble thanks to a good mate who reminded me of that function. :ok: