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50 50 8th Mar 2016 14:33

Aerial Patrol on the rocks?
 
Widely reported today that the Aerial Patrol has run into a crisis with both staff and funding. Grounded until further notice due to the resignation of their chief pilot, and funding frozen by the main benefactor. The replacement of the board and GM can only be a positive for the dedicated staff that have been shortchanged throughout the years, I hope the young crew can find employment sooner rather than later.

The tight lipped interviews and press releases indicate more drama to come.

I will watch with interest the machinations of the greasy Greek. I'm not exactly sympathetic. HM owes me thousands and Wazza fired me when I asked for the money. Boo bloody hoo.

aviationissocool 8th Mar 2016 20:35

South Coast aerial shark patrol in strife | Illawarra Mercury

Horatio Leafblower 8th Mar 2016 21:24

The word I have received from within is that the media reports are somewhat sensationalised and over-stated. Replace the CFI/CP and all will be well.

....which I offer at face value.

Checklist Charlie 8th Mar 2016 22:47

I wonder if any prospective CFI/CP will also be able to write the job description that only their particular approvals/authorisations/delegations can satisfy to the exclusion of others.

CC:=

50 50 9th Mar 2016 00:34

Who would be mad enough to join a business that has had its accounts frozen?

The departure of a senior staff member last year came with the release of a long and very detailed account of the internal conflict between Harry and Wazza, and raised plenty of questions as to where the money actually was. All answered with "No comment". It's a house of cards that was bound to fall over eventually.

If Wazza had planned his departure for the end of the month surley there was someone lined up for the job. Bringing the date forward 2 weeks shouldn't be the end of the world.

dhavillandpilot 9th Mar 2016 02:19

Didn't they sell their chieftain recently. Surely the cash from that even to retire debt would have been positive for their business.

WG has been going to retire for sometime, is there a fishing line in the back of his car?????

All the dealings I've had with HM have been reasonable and business like, so what's your problem 50/50.

Like all small GA business it's tough out there and the Aerial Patrol are no different.

zanthrus 9th Mar 2016 02:31

Advertising for CFI/CP yet again. 3rd time in 6 months.
 
From AFAP site today:

NSW Air conducts operations under an AOC for Flight Training. Chmier and Aerial Work.

The fleet includes basic trainers; C 152, Cl72; intermediate trainers; IFR Warrior 11 , Piper Arrow; and multi-engine aircraft, including Beech Duchess, Partenavia and Piper Twin Comanche.

Our priority is to employ a Chief Flying Instructor and if possible a Chief Pilot. The skills we seek are:


Grade 1 Flight instructor, Multi Engine Instrument Rating and a Multi Engine Training Approval.
50 hours Multi Engine training experience.
250 hours commercial/charter operations - other than flying training.
200 hours Instructional experience as a Grade 1 Instructor.
Preference will be given to applicants having the following experience:

250 hours Instrument rating training experience.
2000 hours total aeronautical experience.
500 hours instructional experience as a Grade 1 Instructor.
250 hours instructor training experience.
Applicants should apply with full details to: Harry Mitchell
[email protected]

50 50 9th Mar 2016 06:46

What's my problem? Did you not read my post? It's fairly clear, Harry owes me money. Won't pay. Not happy. I can't dumb it down any further.

You've never had a problem? Good for you, what does that have to do with anyone else?

Aussie Bob 9th Mar 2016 07:37


Advertising for CFI/CP yet again. 3rd time in 6 months.
I wonder what sort of remuneration I could expect? IMHO it is a job that should pay 150K but I am guessing that is optimistic.

BTW I have no knowledge of this business and don't mean anything derogatory.

Horatio Leafblower 9th Mar 2016 09:10

Aussie Bob,

many would argue that a CP/CFI would be sufficiently "management" to not have the award apply to the position - however - the minimum AWARD salary for the CFI/CP they seek is about $69k incl super, plus about $2k in allowances.

Not much eh?

aviationissocool 15th Mar 2016 01:17

Still grounded or has CP/CFI been found?

red_dirt 29th Mar 2016 07:42

Well mr WG I hope you'll enjoy your retirement.

Cant do any more damage now

Ejector 29th Mar 2016 22:03

"the salary for the CFI/CP they seek is about $69k incl super, plus about $2k in allowances."
Pilots are the only breed of people I see boasting of wages that include Super and meal allowances.

Horatio Leafblower 30th Mar 2016 04:56

Ejector,

I know what you mean but my intention was to make the size of the TOTAL minimum award package crystal clear.

If I had posted just one number then nothing surer, people would ask if it included X, Y, or Z.

Reality is that the majority of pilots in this forum are paid, or have in the past been paid, in accordance with the pilot's award in some form or another. These are the terms they think in when it comes to salaries.

Coal miners and the like also talk about their salaries in terms of hourly rates, production bonuses, travel allowances, overnight allowances, etc.

I don't see anyone boasting about the figure above, considering that it is (rightly or wrongly) the minimum legal amount payable for the stipulated duties under Australian law.

Aussie Bob 30th Mar 2016 09:30


Not much eh?
Nope Leafie, not that much at all. A very sad reflection on our industry. Thanks for posting, but no thanks for the job, the salary is simply not enough even if the flying and lifestyle are tops. As for having to deal with casa as a CP, doubling the wage simply wouldn't be enough.

Wunwing 10th Apr 2016 22:55

The patrol Cessna has been doing runs south of Albion Park for the last few days so are they back in "business"

Wunwing

Cessna Jockey 11th Apr 2016 09:15


The Illawarra’s iconic red and yellow shark-spotting planes were back in the sky on Saturday following a brief hiatus caused by internal turbulence.
The Australian Aerial Patrol (AAP) was grounded last month after the resignation of its chief pilot left the service without the operating licence required by the Civil Aviation Safety Authority (CASA).


The Mercury can reveal a new chief pilot has been appointed and patrols over the region’s beaches were able to resume on Saturday morning.

“We got CASA’s authorisation late yesterday afternoon [Friday],” general manager Harry Mitchell said.


After about a month out of action, the planes will be a feature of the sky over the region’s coastline on Saturdays, Sundays and public holidays until April 25.



Mr Mitchell said CASA had “bent over backwards” to prioritise the two-day chief pilot assessment because the regulatory body was aware of “the community angst down here”.



“We’ve worked very hard to get the aerial patrol planes back up,” he said.
“Our commitment to the community is paramount.”
Mr Mitchell described the aerial patrol’s hiatus as a “small interruption”, adding the service had conducted more patrols during the summer 2015/16 season than any previous year.


The chief pilot is yet to undergo a chief flying instructor assessment, but Mr Mitchell said that was expected to take place “in the next couple of weeks”.



The AAP’s descent into an uncertain future began when the organisation’s bank accounts were frozen on March 4.

Two days later, then chief pilot Warren Gengos brought forward his retirement, offering just five hours notice of his resignation.

The bank accounts were reactivated within days and the funds shifted to another bank.



Late last month, Bendigo Bank – the patrol’s then naming rights sponsor – ended its sponsorship deal, which had spanned more than a decade.
The Mercury understands a new sponsorship deal could be announced as early as next week.
SOURCE: Aerial patrol flies again | Illawarra Mercury

Thank god the beaches are safe once again.......for a 2 minute flyby with Dad's Army (provided they're wearing their glasses). A month out of action will really put a dent in their inflated shark sighting figures.

In 2013, 2,209 people died from skin cancer in Australia, 1,617 from melanoma and 592 deaths from non-melanoma skin cancers.
- Skin cancer - Cancer Council Australia

In 2013, 2 people died from shark attacks in Australia
- https://taronga.org.au/conservation/...ralian-shark-0


:ugh:

Horatio Leafblower 11th Apr 2016 09:52


In 2013, 2 people died from shark attacks in Australia
...the patrols are obviously highly effective then! :E

50 50 11th Apr 2016 12:39

The Aerial Patrol conducted more flight in 2015/16 in response to being outed by their former marketing manager in a blanket email, revealing that a mere $14,000 was spent on patrols in the 2013/14 season. Given that Harry publicly claims it costs $500,000 a year to run the service it does not seem like value for money.
I wonder where the $18,000 donated by MP's Gareth Ward and Anna Watson, to repaint the hanger, ended up, because the hanger is still the same poo green colour.

https://annawatson.com.au/media/media-2015/18000-boost-for-local-aerial-patrol/

Tinstaafl 12th Apr 2016 05:01

I still remember the stickers that appeared all over BAe/Ansett's Tamworth college when a course finished:

--------------------------------------------------
What do you call a man with a rabbit up his arse?

<name of the course responsible>
--------------------------------------------------


(I was given one by one of the course members. It's followed me around the world and lives on my fridge here in Orlando, FL)

tipsy2 12th Apr 2016 05:33

Jeez Tinny, don't remind me.

Tipsy:{

Cessna Jockey 12th Apr 2016 05:48

what are you talking about 5050, they did paint the hanger?

They painted over the lost sponsorship logo of Bendigo Bank.

Tinstaafl 20th Apr 2016 02:55

Tipsy, do you recall the brouhaha when it was discovered that there wasn't a CP appointed? It certainly caused some consternation at the time! I was told that WG was the CAA/CASA person who originally did the organisation's approvals. Oops.

Horatio Leafblower 20th Apr 2016 04:09

Rumour has it that 4 Corners is all over it....?

tipsy2 20th Apr 2016 05:54


Originally Posted by Tinstaafl (Post 9349830)
Tipsy, do you recall the brouhaha when it was discovered that there wasn't a CP appointed? It certainly caused some consternation at the time! I was told that WG was the CAA/CASA person who originally did the organisation's approvals. Oops.

Yes he did, I read the paperwork that related in the little office above Op's. The required "job requirements" were written by him when he was Safety Regs Mngr (NSW Region) in the early 90's. Coincidently he happened to have the exact qualifications and was subsequently appointed. Must have been a a coincidence surely.

Tipsy

Tinstaafl 20th Apr 2016 22:20

Of course it was.

Still boggles my mind that the place was approved - and for some years operated (!) - without anyone noticing the missing, required position. I'd been a CFI/CP a couple of times prior to working there so even I knew about that requirement.

So much for CAA/CASA oversight, and the organisation meeting the very specific regulatory requirement for approved personnel with the necessary knowledge & experience.

aviationissocool 21st Apr 2016 07:17

7:30 Report from my understanding Haratio

AusAv8or 27th Apr 2016 07:35

7:30 Report
 
For those interested, story on the Australian Aerial Patrol goes to air tonight at 7:30PM on the ABC. Features interviews with former employees regarding conduct of the organisation - get the popcorn ready!:E

aviationissocool 27th Apr 2016 10:56

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2016-04-27/shark-patrol-charity-under-investigation-over-alleged-fraud/7364360

Cloudee 27th Apr 2016 12:06

Shark patrol charity Australian Aerial Patrol under investigation over alleged fraud - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

50 50 28th Apr 2016 00:49

I hope he finds my money when he "lifts the roof off". Crime commission and journalists knocking, things are getting serious for Harry. I wonder if "I don't know where the money went" will be acceptable as defence. The General Manager of any organisation is ultimately responsible. Those traffic reports that were paid for and not conducted don't look good. What was it? $127,000, straight in Harry's pocket.

AusAv8or 28th Apr 2016 01:20

For those who missed it last night, you can see him sweating here:

7.30 - 27/4/2016 : ABC iview

The sharks are circling.........

Duck Pilot 28th Apr 2016 02:35

Anything to do with the Merlin getting seized at WOL a few years back for allegedly being involved in unlawful activities?

Horatio Leafblower 28th Apr 2016 03:17

Duck - no - that was Middle East organised crime related.

.....not directly attributable to Harry at any rate ;-)

aviationissocool 28th Apr 2016 12:11

Some more details in this report:

http://www.illawarramercury.com.au/story/3877604/aerial-patrol-under-investigation-report-lays-finances-bare/?cs=298

Could be an interesting front page on the Illawarra Mercury tomorrow morning.

Cessna Jockey 30th Apr 2016 07:59

http://www.illawarramercury.com.au/story/3879432/ive-got-nothing-to-hide-harry-mitchell-insists/?cs=298

It seems even after a public media shaming he's refusing to step down from his role as general manager. How delusional is this guy?

I sincerely hope the remaining pilots come to their senses and walk away from this crook - given the organisation won't see a single cent more of donations I doubt it'll make it through the month. The sooner it collapses, the sooner someone can start up a decent flying school.

50 50 30th Apr 2016 10:13

The forensic accountant says Harry was paid $331.54 a week for work he didn't do. Harry says, "No it's only $200 a week and it's board approved, you're wrong". The board that consists of Harry's hand picked mates, that he's the President of, approved giving him money? You're kidding!

Well, they used to be mates anyway.

AusAv8or 2nd May 2016 03:24


Wollongong City Council has known of “difficulties” within the region's aerial patrol for about six months and has withheld its latest payment to the service, according to Lord Mayor Gordon Bradbery.
Wollongong was due to provide payments totaling $25,432 as a subsidy for the shark patrols for 2015/16, a spokesman said.
Council made the first payment in September.
However Cr Bradbery said the second half of the money - which was due in April - was not paid due to concerns over the recent resignation of the patrol's chief pilot and the "accusations that it was having some difficulties".
Despite these issues, Cr Bradbery said he believed the aerial patrol had "delivered on the expectations [of the council] up until recent times".
"The service that they offered was something that was very important for the safety and wellbeing of our swimmers," he said.
"We were one of the first to have anything like a shark patrol, and having this service coordinating with our lifeguards, this was a really significant contribution to the safety on our beaches in Wollongong."
Cr Bradbery said he did not know if there had been any assessment of how effective the aerial patrols had been, except to say that shark attacks had remained low.
He also noted the $25,000 contribution made up "a tiny fraction" of Wollongong council's $12 million aquatic services budget and $5 million lifeguard services budgets.
"This is relatively speaking, a small amount in the great scheme of things," he said.
He said the council would need to look at how it would patrol the beaches before the start of the next peak season.
Shellharbour council gave the aerial patrol $16,588 in 2015/16 and Kiama council provided its annual funding of $2500 in November 2015.

Asked in late March whether the council intended to renew its agreement, a Shellharbour spokeswoman said a meeting “was being sought with the operators of the aerial patrol about its future operations”.

Cr Bradbery said charities and community groups should exercise "good governance and transparency".
"I'm just disappointed that the trust of the community has been violated and let down," he said.
- Wollongong council pulls aerial shark patrol funds | Illawarra Mercury


I hope Harry isn't planning on any home renovations this season :=

50 50 2nd May 2016 19:38


Originally Posted by dhavillandpilot (Post 9304472)
Didn't they sell their chieftain recently. Surely the cash from that even to retire debt would have been positive for their business.

WG has been going to retire for sometime, is there a fishing line in the back of his car?????

All the dealings I've had with HM have been reasonable and business like, so what's your problem 50/50.

Like all small GA business it's tough out there and the Aerial Patrol are no different.

Are there any other small GA businesses out there that receive $500k annual funding? Imagine what a difference that would make. If you can't keep yourself going with that sort of coin you shouldn't be in business at all.

I think all the news articles adequately illustrate what my problem is. If it was money missing from a cancer charity you wouldn't be so forgiving.

AusAv8or 2nd May 2016 22:41


The state’s consumer watchdog is investigating the region’s troubled aerial patrol but has so far resisted calls to appoint an administrator.



Patrol insiders contacted the department in December, alleging funds intended for the region’s charitable shark-spotting service had been misappropriated.


The group – treasurer John Weston, vice-president Mike Galliano and board adviser Graham Pike – provided a forensic accountant’s report in a bid to prove wrongdoing, and asked that an administrator be appointed.



Mr Pike claims the board was “completely blindsided” by patrol president and general manager, Harry Mitchell.


“Fair Trading has a legal obligation to clean up organisations like AAP, and certainly to protect donors’ money,” Mr Pike said.


“An administrator can help us sort out some of the administrative and financial problems.”


Mr Mitchell denies the claims against him. He told the Mercury the patrol’s finances were the responsibility of its treasurer.



“In any organisation the treasurer has responsibility to ensure those processes are adhered to and followed through – anything to do with financial records and activities and statements of accounts.”


A NSW Fair Trading spokeswoman confirmed the department had reviewed allegations of “internal governance issues, misappropriation of funds and pecuniary gain by Mr Harry Mitchell”.


“However the [forensic accounting] report very clearly states that the documentation on which the forensic report is based is incomplete”.
“Fair Trading requested various documentation from the association and its auditor to determine whether there is any evidence of breaches of the Act.”



“Fair Trading’s detailed review indicated significant internal governance and control issues, including an apparent lack of review of the association’s affairs by the previous committees.


“Fair Trading does not have the authority to deal with matters of internal governance which are largely governed by the association’s constitution. The Committee collectively is responsible for the ... internal governance of the association’s affairs.”



“This includes the employment of staff and contracts entered into as well as contractual performance issues.


“Fair Trading is continuing to make inquiries about the association’s compliance with the Associations Incorporation Act 2009 in order to determine whether any enforcement action is required. However based on the documentation currently available, Fair Trading cannot be satisfied that grounds exist for it to appoint an administrator.”
- Fair Trading holds off on aerial strike | Illawarra Mercury


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