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onetrack 10th Sep 2016 08:51

The "breakthrough" is not all it's claimed to be, apparently.

Breakthrough in lithium-air battery technology disputed

onetrack 10th Sep 2016 09:00

But this is better news - and it's a product that will be available very soon, because it can be produced on the existing Lithium-ion production facilities.

New design Lithium metal batteries double power output for consumer electronics, electric cars

mcoates 24th Mar 2018 02:37

News release today saying the race is on. Where do i enter ?

Dick Smith 24th Mar 2018 09:56

They have changed it a bit from my original proposal and now there is a fuel efficiency section for normal aircraft.

So get out your moony !

aroa 25th Mar 2018 00:16

Great to see this idea is up and running (flying?) again.
Will be interesting to see the electric/hybrid/solar/battery competitor line up.
These a few out there, and this will give the future of flight a push along.

And be plenty of fun for those involved.

What has Oz got to offer in the way of a 'bird' ? A modified Jabiru or something?

Bend alot 27th Mar 2018 23:13


Originally Posted by aroa (Post 10095917)

What has Oz got to offer in the way of a 'bird' ? A modified Jabiru or something?



That why they are getting the Belfast in Cairns ready, to ferry the J450-E series Jabiru.

mcoates 28th Mar 2018 02:45


Originally Posted by Dick Smith (Post 10095076)
They have changed it a bit from my original proposal and now there is a fuel efficiency section for normal aircraft.

So get out your moony !


Hi Dick, i PM'd you but no answer..... where can we get links to the rules and entries etc please ???

Thanks Michael Coates

thunderbird five 28th Mar 2018 03:01

Where would one get info on such a great air race............ dunno, maybe

https://www.greatairrace.com.au/

Matt48 28th Mar 2018 07:36


Originally Posted by aroa (Post 10095917)
Great to see this idea is up and running (flying?) again.
Will be interesting to see the electric/hybrid/solar/battery competitor line up.
These a few out there, and this will give the future of flight a push along.

And be plenty of fun for those involved.

What has Oz got to offer in the way of a 'bird' ? A modified Jabiru or something?

Can we " mid air refuel " using a coax cable from a lighty.

Bend alot 28th Mar 2018 07:43


Originally Posted by Matt48 (Post 10099516)
Can we " mid air refuel " using a coax cable from a lighty.



That time of year just trail a long conductor line and let nature charge you up in a flash.

Matt48 28th Mar 2018 07:45

Pipistrel seem to have an electric plane capable of an hours flight plus 30 mins reserve, this is on two batteries, I wonder how many batteries can be added to the plane to extend flying time, gonna be an awfully slow race stopping every hour for a recharge.

Matt48 28th Mar 2018 07:46


Originally Posted by Bend alot (Post 10099522)
That time of year just trail a long conductor line and let nature charge you up in a flash.

LOL, fit her up with a few supercapacitors.

Matt48 28th Mar 2018 07:48


Originally Posted by Dick Smith (Post 10095076)
They have changed it a bit from my original proposal and now there is a fuel efficiency section for normal aircraft.

So get out your moony !

How about a Jabiru with watercooled heads and fuel injection.

Dick Smith 29th Mar 2018 22:57

What currently available aircraft has the best SFC?

Would it be a motor glider?

omnis 4th Jul 2018 08:14


Originally Posted by Dick Smith (Post 10101579)
What currently available aircraft has the best SFC?

Would it be a motor glider?

Depends on which parameters you apply. I hear the Solar Impulse was pretty good.:)

But look at the results from Green Flight Challenge and Berblinger Flight Competition.

@ cafe.foundation/blog/green-flight-challenge-final-results/

@ cafe.foundation/blog/berblinger-flight-competition-winners-for-2011/

Dick Smith 4th Sep 2018 03:49

Here is an article from the Sunday Telegraph August 30, 2018 entitled "Countries too dangerous to fly over in Great Air Race 2018: Dick Smith proposed air race too dangerous".

mcoates 4th Sep 2018 07:55

It's great to see some media support and exposure for this great event. I just don't 'understand' the stupid title to the article. Let's hope for a full field and a grate competition !

omnis 17th Sep 2018 08:42

Does anyone know if there are any genuine entrants in development?

Andy_RR 17th Sep 2018 09:41


Originally Posted by Dick Smith (Post 10101579)
What currently available aircraft has the best SFC?

Would it be a motor glider?

No - small, low-power engines don't tend to make spectacular SFCs because the surface/volume ratio of the combustion chamber is heading down the toilet however SFC is only part of a very large picture and making loads of shaft power efficiently is pointless if you blow most of it away with poor aero and thrust efficiency.

omnis 3rd Nov 2018 15:32

What is your definition of 'small', and 'low power'?


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