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Flygirl__37 27th Mar 2015 06:07

Good On You Dick!
 
He will get my vote...... GA is slowly being crippled and we need someone like him to stand up and make a difference.


Good on Ya Dick!

Ascend Charlie 27th Mar 2015 07:06

Why not bring Uncle Kingsford's name into it? That would definitely carry some aviation clout. He was an inveterate drunkard so that would fit in well in parliament.

When I hear that CA$A has taken the VFG off the net and is now requiring people to BUY it and cart the weight around instead of just having a few squillion electrons buzzing around the iPad, it burns me up. Then they require carriage of a piece of paper from your employer stating that you are properly trained.

Watch what they do in the wake of the French Alps, you will all need Psych tests before every flight. But a Dick in parliament might be able to roger such a proposition. Go for it, Dick!:ok:

thorn bird 27th Mar 2015 10:42

Well guys, say what you like But...


25 years or so ago CAsA began their "regulatory Reform" project.
25 Years and $250 Million Dollars later we have Part 145, Part 61, Part 135 to come. There were people warning people, way before these pieces of crap legislation became law, that the industry better sit up and take notice, because this was serious Sh.t and could mean the end of the industry.
Did Anyone Listen????Let alone get off their asses and do anything, except argue amongst themselves?


We have witnessed our secondary airports flogged to property Sharks utilizing corrupt immoral practices. There were people warning that without objection our airports would disappear. Primary Airports have become the biggest tax dodge in history and get voted the worlds worst year on year, and our secondary's are slowly being chewed to death by circling property sharks...too much money, no control, no objection, and rampant corruption. Any dissenting voices?...talk about the silence of the lambs!!


In recent times we have CAsA begging the Govn. for funds...Fuel levee is the answer to raise $90 million to employ extra front line personnel. Were any employed?? Na, but a bunch of managers and consultants were.


The levee has not been rescinded, so their still raking it in, but now CAsA want and extra $25 Million via dodgy service charges. That is a service charge for services that are entirely unnecessary, that serve no "Safety" function, merely swell CAsA's coffers.


Just how much can Industry absorb??


We have absorbed $170 million or so in costs to be the "First in the world" to mandate ADSB compliance. All to advance CAsA CEO's nomination to the highest rank in ICAO. Save the government a vast sum for radar replacement and ensure ASA exec's got a nice little bonus.
We have absorbed the imposition of completely, incompetently formulated, inane regulations.


Did we hear long and loud complaints for what would appear blatant corruption??..not a squeak.


Wow I'm glad I'm at the end of it. I really despair for the young people coming through. There is no hope for them. Their efforts are for nought.
What a waste of recourses, time, energy and enthusiasm.


Good on you dick, no one else has had the balls to upset the apple cart, your critics speak with empty voices, at least you have shown the courage to promote your convictions and I applaud you.

Hempy 27th Mar 2015 12:39

Dicks having a party? Let me guess; it's BYO grog, food is 'Aussie sourced' but cooked in the USA (worlds best practice, don't you know), and entertainment provided by 'Flying Skull and the NAS orchestra'. Think I'm washing my hair that night..

Square Bear 27th Mar 2015 12:58

Believe the current Xbenchers are:

Senators: Day, Lambie, Lazzarus, Leyonhjelm, Muir, Wang & Xenophon.

With the exception of SEN Xenophon, I'd have Mr D. SMITH over those.

LeadSled 27th Mar 2015 14:18

Hempy,
You really are a miserable sod, aren't you.
Perhaps a good example of why Australian aviation is in the state it is in.
Tootle pip!!

Hempy 27th Mar 2015 15:02


Originally Posted by LeadHead
Perhaps a good example of why Australian aviation is in the state it is in.

Nah, that'd be 'your mate'...

triadic 28th Mar 2015 06:39


Please chaps.... Can we stay on topic?

Dick Smith 30th Mar 2015 04:01

Philby, Burgess and Maclean in the Aviation Bureaucracy?

camber3 – you are basically correct when you state,


“I've heard it's a party to address the country's sustainability problem worsened by population growth levels, lack of foresight in planning, plus reduction in bureaucratic red tape”.
About a year ago the people involved in the Sustainable Population movement asked me if I would lend my name to a political party they were setting up. Their pretty thorough research had shown that they would get a couple of senators up if they had my name tied-up with their Party. I refused because I believe having more and more political parties is a disaster for our country – especially considering that some of them seem to be pretty loopy.

However, times have changed and I’m so bloody angry at the way the present Government is destroying general aviation – an industry I love.

Yes, I can assure you I can afford all the extra costs of Part 61 and just about everything else they throw at me. However, for me to walk around Bankstown Airport and see the hangars locked-up of businesses that were once thriving makes me feel sick.

I have been “duchessed” for the last fifteen years by people in the bureaucracy. In fact, I am beginning to feel that within the aviation bureaucracy is Philby, Burgess and Maclean. Remember after World War 2 the British and American intelligence services could not work out why, despite an enormous amount of work, they could get nowhere in the espionage game. Of course it was because these three and others within their organisations were undermining everything they do.

No, I am not suggesting there is a “traitor” or “communist supporter” within the bureaucracy, but I think there are at least three people who have been there for years and have deluded themselves into believing that no changes are necessary. This delusion has become so overpowering that they do everything they can to stop the move to reducing costs.

And they are successful. We have a Government that said they are going to reduce unnecessary costs and red tape when clearly the opposite is happening in aviation.

Yes, the substantial interest of mine is the fact that politicians tell us we can have perpetual growth forever in our economic system when anyone with any brains knows this is impossible. We have to actually live in balance.

Of course any party with the name “Dick Smith” this will be the major issue. In other ways it will be very much middle-of-the-road as I am. However, if they are going to use my name I will make sure they have a damn good aviation policy including that of the Coalition two elections ago, viz


Australia will become a leader in the world in flight training and recreational aviation bringing tens of millions of dollars of overseas export income to Australia.
Of course, this would all be completely solved and I would not have to lend my name to a party if the Government did what it said it was going to do, but for some incredible reason I don’t see this happening.

To see the locked-up hangars at Bankstown storing junk and knowing that tens of thousands of jobs could be provided around Australia is nothing short of criminal as far as I am concerned.

The Philbys, Burgesses and Macleans may have deluded themselves into deriving some form of satisfaction but they have certainly been successful in undermining an otherwise viable industry.

Ozdork 30th Mar 2015 05:42

So how do we join Dick?

triadic 30th Mar 2015 06:29

Well said Dick. We can only hope there is some traction. We sure do need it....:D:D

thorn bird 30th Mar 2015 08:13

:D:D:D:D

Bravo Dick!! Bravo!!

Have you been to New Zealand recently? Aviation is now their second biggest contributor to GDP, not bad for a country with a population less than Sydney.

Regulation has destroyed our manufacturing industry and anything else that is a regulated industry, unions helped, but over regulation was by far the biggest killer. OH&S will ultimately destroy our mining industry, leaving only our service industry, which surprise, surprise, requires some sort of service
"At a Price" which cannot be delivered with our penalty rates.

Australia is already overpopulated, we will run out of water by 2030, look at the demographics, by 2050 Australia will be a Muslim State.

tail wheel 30th Mar 2015 10:45

I drove through Archerfield Airport today. Unless one is in the market for a heavy earthmoving machine, a car battery or a plethora of other non aviation goods and services, the aviation industry is not even a shadow of the activity it was twenty or thirty years ago. I suspect airport charges and regulatory costs have decimated general aviation.

The Philby, Burgess, Maclean and Crabb cohort at CASA and the FAC and subsequent airport privatisation left general aviation and flying training in a state of near rigor mortis.

Soteria 30th Mar 2015 23:31


Australia is already overpopulated, we will run out of water by 2030, look at the demographics, by 2050 Australia will be a Muslim State.
Perhaps CASA will also be gifted the task of regulating 'water' and 'religion' as well? If so that means neither will exist beyond 2020!

BNEA320 31st Mar 2015 01:18

Is Islam a religion ? In name only (& tax benefits) just like Scientology.


Why doesn't ATO crack down on these obvious scams ?

At ease 31st Mar 2015 04:39


Is Islam a religion ?
Of course it is.

It is the religion of peace. :rolleyes:

tpad 31st Mar 2015 04:56

Thorn Bird said

"Have you been to New Zealand recently? Aviation is now their second biggest contributor to GDP, not bad for a country with a population less than Sydney."
................

Sadly Thorn Bird, New Zealand aviation is not immune to the PC garbage that has invaded so much of our lives.

Last week the NZCAA were advertising for an Aviation Policy Adviser.

"Hmm," I thought. "41 years in the business, that might be me."

Downloaded the job spec, read three pages of HR Newspeak which culminated in ( literally ) the bottom line which said,

"An interest in aviation is desirable "

The position is aimed at a uni graduate with "three years experience in public policy making."

The HR waffle banged on about establishing relationships with stake-holders in Airlines, Airways et al. Apparently it is not necessary to have any knowledge of the game to discuss policy with the people at the top of the industry.

"An interest in aviation is desirable " .... says it all really.

Frank Arouet 31st Mar 2015 07:05

QUOTE "An interest in aviation is desirable "QUOTE


Somewhat toward "fostering and encouraging" which is more than anyone this side of the ditch will ever see. I believe I is written mantra in US aviation regulation. Pity we don't have the political or industry will to force this upon the regulation makers here.


Duplication of the NZ or PNG rules would be a good start. That would give time to run a parallel regulatory repeal of the current mess which is still a dogs breakfast after nearly 30 years.


However I think Dick is attempting to cover a plethora of righting wrongs in everything from food production, immigration, trade and probably aviation.


And good luck to him.

The name is Porter 31st Mar 2015 09:36

I'm tipping that aviation in NZ is not the golden pond you all think it is. I'd like to hear from:

A Flying School.

A Private Pilot.

An Experimental Owner.

A Charter Organisation.

A small RPT airline.

Is it better over there?

TwoFiftyBelowTen 31st Mar 2015 09:51

They have the PAC750XL which seems to be selling as fast as they can make them.
We have zilch, thanks to India now owning GippsAero, and looking for somewhere else to take the manufacturing plant.


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