ATSB Aviation Commissioner.
 

It seems Chris Manning got the job. A capable sort of bloke and should do well.

Is he the ex QF chief pilot?
Edit: to answer my own question, yes.
So new question to QF drivers: What was CM like as a boss? Is this a good move? (Methinks anyone with aviation experience would be better than the current setup)

Prior to his Chief Pilot job he was AIPA President.

Wunwing

I remember seeing him shortly after his departure from QF in the SYD Dom terminal dressed immaculately in a suit. I recall thinking at the time how lonely he looked..... It must require rare qualities to go from AIPA President to QF Chief Pilot.

Asta la vista Beaker - mememe mememe
 

Manning is ok. At least the ATSB will now have somebody who understands safety and aviation. That's a good starting point. He also understands what politics is about plus he is used to working with an assortment of executive wa#kers at the top so that should also be an advantage to him. I just hope that he has an affinity for counting buckets of coins and stretching the dollar afar because the Deputy Prime Minister and poster boy for bad skin plus MrDak are very budget conscious when it comes to safety.
Any word on where the incompetent beardless one is going? Comcare? A foreign aid program? Replacement for Joe Hockey?

Best of luck Chris. Please punt the other two non-aviation Commissioners and Jules Verne while you are at it mate and keep clear of those Westwinds. Cheers

CC.
Actually for a long time AIPA President was a normal progression on the way to QF Flight Ops Management.

Having worked with Chris in his AIPA roles I think that he has the right credentials to take on the DOT and Ministerial "heavies". He certainly knows the whole scene and the personalities very well and he doesn't owe anybody anything.

ATSB re-opening investigation: AO-2009-072
 

From the ATSB site:


"The re-opened investigation is being conducted by an experienced team of ATSB investigators who have expertise in flight operations, human factors, organisational factors, air traffic control and cabin safety, and who were not part of the original investigation team. Oversight of the investigation team and lines of reporting to the ATSB Commissioners for the re-opened investigation have also been changed from the original investigation."


Is this new "ATSB Aviation Commissioner" (still to be announced?) an addition to the existing three commissioners including the existing discredited Chief Commissioner?

Polarising
 

Wunwing,

As one who worked with him in AIPA and tried to work with him when he became CP, suffice it to say that your glowing endorsement of Manning is not universally shared. Some might suggest that integrity is not his strong point and others might suggest that he is not entirely independent of the Chairman of Pelair who may have even lobbied for his appointment.

Given that the rumour is that ATSB Commissioner is second prize for keeping him away from CASA, you have to wonder about Truss' judgement in supporting McComic for DG ICAO and Manning for the ATSB :ugh: :yuk: :ugh:

Is he the bloke who stood up in front of a room full of Jetstar pilots and told them they could never join AIPA because they are not Qantas pilots:confused::confused:

COM Cleaner: Check you PM's.

Yep and then magically becomes the CP.........

I am no apologist for Chris and anybody who knows my history within the AIPA Exec would know that we disagreed on many things. However for some time on this site there has been constant negative comment on the current team running the ATSB and CASA. In particular there has been much criticism of both teams lack of appropriate prior experience.Finally the industry gets an ATSB Commissioner with line flying,union and upper management,political and no RAAF experience and in typical PPRune fashion we get "stuck into him" even though he has all the background that we say is needed.

How about we do something unusual on PPrune and wait to see how he and the ATSB perform before we start the negative comments?

Does AIPA and AFAP work well together? CAsA appear to be fairly well embedded in the AFAP camp. Maybe the agro will continue?


But to repeat my opening post, "It seems Chris Manning got the job. A capable sort of bloke and should do well".

performance
 

Ahhh Wunwing,

Good to see that 'not one minute of RAAF time' is now a valid selection criterion, ROFLMAO

As for performance, he will prove to be as effective as Cosgrove was on the QF Board and equally as eagle-eyed looking for the next step up in the world.


Frank,

There is nothing left of the Manning influence at AIPA and there hasn't been for some time. The AIPA-AFAP tango is conducted to a far different orchestral backing these days.

Where did the "not one minute of RAAF time" come from? What I said was that Chris had "no RAAF time".This was in reference to the list of attributes or lack of, constantly complained about on PPrune. It is not my list, its a compendium of the PPRune criteria which current incumbents have or dont have.

From my perspective given the recent CASA appointment with a RAAF background I see it as a good thing if this is countetred in the ATSB with someone with no service experience.

Anyone reading this thread would come to the conclusion from these posts that no one is suitable for a senior CASA or ATSB position and what we have had over the last few years is probably as good as we ever will get.

There were many who decided that AVM Skidmore was going to be a mere puppet of the real men in power but he seems to have already asserted his authority with the Angel Flight decision. CM is not replacing Dolan he is just going to provide some aviation experience on the ATSB Executive. I doubt he will have a hands on role in the day to day running of the place and I doubt he will have any more authority over the Chief Commissioner than the other Commissioners do. Hopefully CM will be able to tell Dolan that a report like the PelAir report is not good enough and then be able to explain why.

CM's best mate John Sharp won't let him criticise anything REX! Ask CM's course mates at QF what they thought of him. He wasn't invited to the reunions. Hopefully the Chief Commissioner(yet to be named)is a man of moral fibre! Truss continues to be a poor judge of character, first Peter Cosgrove, now Chris Manning. Skidmore needs to be more than a figurehead.

Que?
 

If CM has to explain to Doolan that the Pelair report is not up to scratch and why, then Doolan is obviously as thick as concrete block if he hasnt yet figured it out for himself.
That block should be used as a boat anchorage beside the Westwind while the boxes are recovered.:ok:
Then he might ?just get the message.

FWIW
Chris's political acumen, would be a definite advantage in this role. Having dealt with him outside of Qantas I feel he is a good choice.

Not at all when the principal criteria is to keep his name out of the media!

One day - maybe - it will all come crashing down on him, but then again, that other useless Minister Anderson survived almost unscathed!