Virgin top dogs and pollie's at Tamworth now announcing TMW -SYD from May 26.

Poor old Jetgo. VA's 6x weekly service isn't exactly going to blow their product out of the water but more competition will still be unwelcome I would think.

Well if Virgin have popped the SYD-TAM cherry, it won't be difficult to throw an ATR on BN-TAM. JETGO won't win that battle. "Jet Schmet" people don't care. They want points with their cheap fares.

Interesting announcement still 3 months from start & dumping $85 fares.... I don't think Jetgo or TMW-BNE are even a consideration, maybe some slight collateral damage. Maybe!

This is very much a shot at Qantaslink, using Qantaslink's old tactics. It is not about making a profit, this is about taking enough pax away from the competition to deny them a profit.

Considering this is Eastern's home base, for VA to take a dump on their front step, the symbolism wont be lost. There is more to this story than just 6 x ATR services per week!

I doubt it is anything more than going where QLink currently has 100% of the market.

VA do BNE-BDB 6 or 7 times a week and it hasn't done much to QLink.

They also compete several times a day on BNE-EMD/MOV/GLT/ROK, not to mention SYD-CBR/ABX/PQQ/CFS.

SYD-TMW is about the only route in NSW where QLink has no competition.

Is there any truth to the rumour that Eastern/QF threatened the council with the removal of the maintenance base should they permit a competitor to operate into TW?

Heard this about 12 months ago.

How could they threaten that? ACCC gets a hold of that they are toast.

I don't know. I imagine it would amount to anti-competitive behaviour.

It was just something I heard from a few sources and am interested to find out..........

It appears to not be that relevant now that VA will be operating the route, but is worthy of note.

This will be VERY interesting.

Narrabri has wanted to restore RPT services NBR-SYD since December 2013.

There has always been a segment of the market who preferred to drive over to Tamworth to get FF points, Lounge, baggage checked thru, cheaper fares etc.

If VARA are working on the route and fares plunge further, what's that going to do to the viability of the Narrabri route? :confused:

I am told that 3 airlines are courting the local council now (Jetgo, Pelican, Airlink maybe?).. we live in interesting times. :eek:

If the two major airlines believe TW - SY will support 5-6 daily return services then arguably TW - BN is at least a 3-4 daily return market. A lowering AUD will assist the influx of overseas travellers to Australia but where does just Jetgo turn if either or both launch one or more services to BN ex TW?

This maybe a 'cheap' route to operate, definitely not a cheap route to compete on. With sub $100 tix on offer, the Jetgo hardware can't compete. Unlike GLA-SY, they have no comparative advantage ex TW. VA & QF will be watching their numbers closely and when the time is right, more than likely a new service will go up against JG. So how do they see off the competition and remain a competitive operator in this market?

An alliance of sorts with another operator could be one option. Moreover, the best chance to remain in the RPT market and hedge risk to some extent would be to become a contractor, ala Cobham & Alliance. Clearly they're not marketers but they can operate the hardware and from all accounts, do it very well.

As the only E135 operator in Australia, they have an instant comparative advantage provided they can open the minds of larger operators to see the benefits of the type at RPT on suitable sectors. Could this be Rex's easiest opportunity to morph into a jet operator?

JG have opportunities, but it won't be by just flying A to B. I really believe they're best chance is not as a stand-alone RPT outfit but still, the time is right to be in RPT due to the relatively low fuel costs and a low AUD. Most of all, to have real skin in the game & be able to influence a merger or acquisition, they have to gain some 'street cred', a network or a critical mass in RPT, & unfortunately TW-BN won't provide that foundation.

Dollar sinks = aircraft costs rising :uhoh:
[lease/insurance/engine reserves/parts/rotables/sim training/freight all in USD]

*also inbound tourists on TW-BN-TW, you have to be kidding..

All quiet!

TBM call your buddy NL in Las Vegas plenty of USD and Equipment hanging around over here -73F B75/76, living the American dream might throw a bit at Jetgo ......

All Quiet
Too busy walking the streets drumming up business!:ok:

Any truth to the rumour they are opening three new routes?

Good news if they are.

Brisbane-Moree-Narrabri-SYD I would suggest

BNE-CFS is calling out for a operator since Brindabella.It used to be 2 x daily J41'S .

Jetgo expanding ?

New routes to be announced this Thursday apparently.

sure I read somewhere a few months back(can't find it now), that there were going to be new jet services to Albury & someone guessed it might be Jetgo, but think it was denied & then it appeared to be Alliance.


Albury hasn't had regular jets since VA pulled out their E-jets, I believe.

Still with just three airframes?

Yes its Jetgo they are announcing Gold Coast to Canberra and Albury to Brisbane. They actually have 3 more 140's still stored in the US. I believe they are finally coming out in May

OOL/CBR/ABX

Don't always believe what you're told there champ

Lol champ.....

Why are you alluding to the fact they may not have the 140's in storage?

Work for the leasing company? No? Then how could you know!

Maybe they do maybe they don't or maybe they only have 1 in storage or maybe 2?

Not having a go just curious

:ok:Good one red perhaps I know more than you. Or not since you're management.....

Do you remember that part when I said "not having a go, just asking"?

Well the funny thing is that I actually meant it. I'm genuinely curious that's all

If you want to just make smug remarks then that's fine lets play. Again was a genuine question.

You always seem to assume I work for Jetgo and as I have told you before....I don't but hey don't let the truth interfere with a good story inside your world. Bro I'm on the other side of the country to them

Those 140s have been "coming" for 3 years..... Do some research and you'll find that out red ol boy

Lol "old boy" what is it with you and your inane terms of reference?

I'm aware that they have been "coming" and they may well be will still be coming but my question how do you know?

Any 140's arriving soon? Nearly end of May.

Could the 20 June launch date be looking a little shakey? Is 3 weeks enough to import an airliner and have it approved to operate airline ops?

Surprised??? Well since there's a 135 sitting lonely over by the mineralogy jets at BNE, I'd say not.

Can you name the airline which will shut down operations on its newest route for a month because its 'swapping airports'? Who comes up with such a line expecting it to be a believeable explanation?

You stop flying, lose revenue & dump your loyal customers because you're changing airports? Now there's a brilliant business strategy.

Too bad they just can't tell the truth. I hope the investors aren't fed the same BS.

Still only three airframes on the CASA register. In 2 weeks Dubbo-Melbourne comes off suspension. But why the suspension anyway? Not, by chance, to get in on the significant charter work on offer from the Federal election?

Election July 2. Melbourne restarts July 3! No new airframes, but new destinations. Suspect a route to be dropped shortly?

deleted, tired of responding to trolls.

NS,

They aren't doing any election work. The bulk is done by Alliance.

Check the new schedules post July 3, new schedule times means it works with 2 frames. 2 hard-working frames, but it works.

Why the beef?

Going Nowhere, fair question but no beef as such. Just that if you see something in the public arena you don't agree with, could be done better or is even being done well, why not speak up. Nothing wrong with public review and public opinion, particularly if it leads to a better standard or service. That's all.

Let's face it, these guys have a great opportunity, are about as 'untouchable' as any new entrant is ever likely to be in the Australian commuter sector and they just don't seem to get out of first or second gear. We can debate the intricacies of their past two year performance but, unlike customers, business and investors reward results not effort. To be frank, I think this team can launch an airline, they can operate an airline, I'm not sure they can grow an airline. Contrary to the airline's earlier projection of a ten aircraft fleet, maybe this is now all they wish to operate, just three airframes. If so, don't be surprised if its not a long term play which would be an enormous, lost opportunity for competition and growth in Australian aviation.