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cavok123 14th Oct 2014 02:43

Plane crash Chelsea?
 
Any word on a plane crash in Chelsea?

tartare 14th Oct 2014 03:03

On Sky live now.

Ex FSO GRIFFO 14th Oct 2014 03:05

Just reported on the 11am (WST) - Radio 6PR news.....

Aircraft reported to have 'gone straight down' onto a car..?

Doesn't sound good.....

Caedus 14th Oct 2014 03:07

On news.com.au

Chelsea plane crash: Plane ?nosedives? and hits houses

More angles on ABC

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-10-1...helsea/5812548

One casualty. RIP

PoppaJo 14th Oct 2014 03:27

CFA reported 1 body at scene deceased.

Track5milefinal 14th Oct 2014 03:40

Trying to make the beach perhaps?

Not good! RIP

the_rookie 14th Oct 2014 03:42

Any news if it's from a flying school or not? RIP

TunaBum 14th Oct 2014 04:30

Police conference on Sky say they think it's "home built". Also they say possible part found hundreds of meters away from crash site.

TB

Track5milefinal 14th Oct 2014 04:39

If you have a look at Webtrak an aircraft departs Moorabbin at 1:23 EST ... Tracks coastal down the coast and disappears in the Chelsea area ... Certainly not an engine failure inland and trying to glide to the beach going by Webtrak.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.n...f05883c5d22625

Squawk7700 14th Oct 2014 05:07

Thanks for posting FPV. We are all grown up and know the consequences of what happens when all goes wrong during what we do for a job or for fun. A picture is worth a thousand words.

TunaBum 14th Oct 2014 05:11

Possibly an RV-6A....

Cxmeron 14th Oct 2014 05:24

I highly doubt he was gliding, if you do some quick calcs, webtrak shows a descent rate of 6000-9000 fpm and increasing. From 3000ft to impact in 20 seconds.

That to me is more likely to be a structural or medical problem.

Track5milefinal 14th Oct 2014 05:38

ATSB reporting amateur built aircraft, Van's RV-6A, VH-JON

OZBUSDRIVER 14th Oct 2014 06:21

Famous little Aeroplane if it is JON.

Desert Flower 14th Oct 2014 06:25


Famous little Aeroplane if it is JON.
Are you sure you're not thinking of NOJ?

DF.

mickk 14th Oct 2014 06:31

Was tracking south coastal at abt 2000 ft, traffic was heading in the other direction abt 1000ft. There was a very stiff wind off the bay at the time, 20kts gusting 30 which would not have helped matters. A couple of locals did their best but nothing could be done. Traffic at YMMB pretty much ceased for the day out of respect I imagine. RIP and condolences to the family.

Tagneah 14th Oct 2014 06:35

MEMORY ITEMS UPON HEARING NEWS OF AN AIRCRAFT CRASH.

1. Call mates who may be in the area to make sure its not them
2. Get on PPRUNe to monday quarterback the pictures put up there and taken from a news website who's producers will also trawl the interweb (including PPRUNe) to garner any conceived theory to satisfy the publics " Tell us, TELL US NOW" view of the world.

A fellow aviator has passed. He pushed the throttle open as most of us do everyday and it ended tragically. His family are hurting, so are his friends.

Just leave it.

Tag.

nojwod 14th Oct 2014 06:36

Registered operator of JON is from Hampton East, whereas NOJ is John Johanson's RV-4.

OZBUSDRIVER 14th Oct 2014 06:39

Yes, mistaken identity....appols on that.

Squawk7700 14th Oct 2014 07:03

Thanks for the moderating tips Tag. We didn't really need them.

TheKmaGuy 14th Oct 2014 07:18

Plane crash chelsea
 
my father was on my balcony and he heard the engine stall. it crashed nearby to my house. the victim has been torn apart his limbs were scattered over the area. the fire from the plane wasn't to big about 2-3M.

Ultralights 14th Oct 2014 07:20

webtrack shows up to 9000ft/min ROD.. hasnt been a great week in aviation... condolences to all..

Tagneah 14th Oct 2014 07:21

You're welcome Squawk. Just keep circling, Vulture.

Desert Flower 14th Oct 2014 07:41


Registered operator of JON is from Hampton East, whereas NOJ is John Johanson's RV-4.
That is what I meant when someone said JON was a famous little aeroplane. I don't whether JON ever was, but NOJ certainly was.

DF.

Desert Flower 14th Oct 2014 07:45


Yes, mistaken identity....appols on that.
OZBUS, I must admit that my heart was in my mouth for a few seconds until I realised that the rego was the wrong way around.

DF.

Desert Flower 14th Oct 2014 07:50


A fellow aviator has passed. He pushed the throttle open as most of us do everyday and it ended tragically. His family are hurting, so are his friends.
So are we to gather from that you were a friend of the deceased? If so, sorry. But you know how this forum works, so why complain? If you don't like the comments, don't read them - simple!

DF.

Squawk7700 14th Oct 2014 07:52

My heart is in my mouth DF no matter which aircraft crashes as I'm sure we all feel that way when someone departs us. It's been happening far too much lately.

Tagneah 14th Oct 2014 07:58

You can gather whatever you wish, however comments (since deleted) about the possible crash sequence and the intentions of the pilot are just plain dumb unless the individual posting them is a. At the scene and b. A trained crash investigator. Simple!

Oh and how and I supposed to know if I like a comment or not if I dont read them? Simple!

Car RAMROD 14th Oct 2014 08:06

VH-JON according to ATSB AO-2014-164

OZBUSDRIVER 14th Oct 2014 08:07

DF, when I saw that bit of green and then the reported rego....dislexicme...My heart sank as well.

Equally, this is still a tragic outcome.

1a sound asleep 14th Oct 2014 08:20

Always sad. I note that this aircraft was fitted with a Honda V6 engine so I think the ATSB will have an even greater interest than perhaps normal.

Sunfish 14th Oct 2014 08:31

Experimental aircraft + experimental engine. ATSB will have minimal interest...except isn't this the Third RV6 fatal crash this year?

Jabawocky 14th Oct 2014 08:54

IO360 folks, despite what the register says.

VH-Cheer Up 14th Oct 2014 09:21

Io360 is what Rego Search said when I looked it up just now.
http://www.regosearch.com/aircraft/au/jon

yr right 14th Oct 2014 09:36

Experimental aircraft + experimental engine. ATSB will have minimal interest




Except this aircraft crashed in suburban street and it was a fatality as I recall all deaths are investigated by the astb

Fred Gassit 14th Oct 2014 10:00

Not necessarily it seems, a mate of mine was killed in a c210 (charter) years ago, insurance company were the only ones to investigate.

Jabawocky 14th Oct 2014 10:45

Fred you are correct. :ok:

But I am sure we are both about to get told off and that we are "yr wrong" :ugh:

Marauder 14th Oct 2014 11:20

NOJ safely on display at the SA Aviation Museum at Port Adelaide (as of the long weekend just passed anyway)

1a sound asleep 14th Oct 2014 11:33

The ATSB has deployed three investigators to the accident site. The investigators have specialisations in aircraft operations and engineering. They are expected to arrive on site Wednesday morning (15 October 2014). It is expected they will remain on site for two to three days.

VH-Cheer Up 14th Oct 2014 16:07

Any more info about this part allegedly found some hundreds of metres away from the main debris field?


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