Part 61 questions
 

Hi y'all

Would I be correct that IRTA will not be auto with GD 1 anymore and separate flight test will be required? I assume my META will be carried over as with other endos and ratings.

Will it be a possibility for the test to be done during the grade 1 upgrade after sep 1st?


I'm currently chartering, and have the hours for grade 1, probably gonna stay GA charter/ instruction mix for the foreseeable future and trying to decide whether to sit the test prior to changeover.

Thanks in advance

Yes you are correct. From a popular ATOs mouth on the subject all FIR upgrades will be separate tests. As for can you do more than one at a time it depends on your preferred ATO. Even now most will not do multiple ticks on the same day even though the ATOM says they can.


So if you have the hours go and get the PMI out of the road and get it done.

Figured as much...
What a pain in the ar$e!:}
Cheers

PART 61 DILEMMA RE AEROS
 

Curious to see how aerobatics will now be recognized as a licence qualification as CASA have no track of records no do most senior pilots have their first logbook.

Under the old CAR it was issued as an informal approval from one qualified pilot to another. now it seems it will require an official test to be able to conduct said sequence or spin.

How will spinning be recognized. As far as I remember, spins are type specific. Am I expected to pay for 6 different flight tests so I can exercise the same privilege that I exercise today???

HR

Considering the email that turned up yesterday from CASA, I'd say very likely..

"The start of the new licensing suite of regulations is now just over a month away. On 1 September 2014 the transition period for Parts 61, 64, 141 and 142 of the Civil Aviation Safety Regulations begins. Over the four year period from 1 September 2014 all pilots will have their licences converted from the current format under Part 5 of the Civil Aviation Regulations to the new format under Part 61 of the Civil Aviation Safety Regulations. Pilots can continue to use their current licence during the transition period until it is converted. The four year transition period has been established to enable CASA to manage the conversion of about 40,000 licences as smoothly as possible. From 1 September 2014 all new pilot licences, ratings and endorsements will be issued under the Part 61 regulations. New requirements for flight reviews and proficiency checks will also take effect.
We are encouraging pilots to apply for a new licence document only when their flight instructor or flight examiner notifies CASA of a flight review, proficiency check or a flight test for a new licence, rating or endorsement. By adopting this approach there will be an orderly flow of licence conversions, rather than a potential log jam if many pilots apply at one time. When a flight review, proficiency check or flight test is conducted pilots will complete a form to transfer their qualifications to Part 61. The flight examiner or instructor will make an entry on the current licence in the first available space and then draw a line directly under it. The examiner or instructor can also sight and certify copies of any original permissions not contained in the current licence that need to be transferred to the new Part 61 licence. This includes permissions contained in the log book or any other instrument that confers privileges under the Civil Aviation Regulations. Both the notification and transfer forms will then be sent to CASA, along with certified copies of any permissions. All the permissions will then be placed in the new Part 61 licence, which will have been updated using the details provided on both forms. The new Part 61 licence will then be printed and posted to the pilot. We are asking pilots to then carefully check all of the permissions listed in the new licence document to ensure none have been missed. If a pilot believes a current permission is missing from their new Part 61 licence, a resolution form will be available on the CASA website from 1 September 2014.
For most pilots the only noticeable change under Part 61 is they will get a new licence document with a slightly different format, although the new licence looks similar to the old and is still on paper. The first pages will still contain the Government crest and a pilot’s personal details. Next will be a list of all licences - for example private pilot licence and commercial pilot licence - and aircraft ratings. Any design features and flight activity endorsements held will then be listed, followed by any operational ratings and their associated endorsements. The biggest change pilots will notice is the addition of tables to the end of their licence because sticky labels will no longer be used in logbooks. Any new ratings and endorsements gained by a pilot will now be written directly onto the Part 61 licence tables by instructors and examiners.
Please find out more about the new licences and other changes in the licensing suite by regularly visiting the CASA website.
Best regards
John F McCormick"

Finally, 20 years & 250 million later! How good is this? This will be soooooo cool! I love this country and how efficient we are, best red tape in the world :D every aviation nation in the world will be clamouring to adopt our suite of regulations :ok:

Now now 'JR' lets not get too cynical here buddy we all know that CASA's mandate is to retain their jobs at all costs, to create confusion something they are experts at, efficiency has nothing to do with it:E:ok: It's the Aussie way ya know mate:ok:

Wmk2

After examining my father's old licence from the 70s, it's become apparent that CASA has simply gone full circle and returned to the old way of doing things.

The old licences have these tables where Instructors and Testing Officers were to input endo's, approvals and ratings. So it appears for all the money poured into this process has simply taken us back to a soon-to-be recycled method.

Speaking of 'reform'. Goodbye GFPT, hello RPL... again. We used to have the Restricted Pilot Licence as well, until someone spent a few 10's of million dollars 'improving' the system to the GFPT.

What else can we dredge up and reuse, whilst calling it innovation? Sounds like the fashion industry and Hollywood...

Everything old is new again!!!

As far as CAsA goes.

They are recycling pilots as well, upgrading 72 year olds with A380 endorse's no age discrimination there, even supply free Viagra so the geriatrics can relive their youthful exploits.

Tad harsh thorny, can't see where the introduction of my Viagra interferes with your flying progress .... :E maybe I won't ask you to hard stick it onto the runway?

Where is that Solvol?

Na avgas, no problem they only give them Viagra light, gets it hard enough so they don't fill their boots when they have a pee.
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A golden opportunity for an act of civil disobedience, if all 40,000 of us all apply for new licences on 1 / 9 / 2014.........:p. A quick question - as members of the GA community, we have funded the research which has brought us back to where we started and are reverting to a system which I am not sure that we ever asked to change from or revert back to (did I miss the overwhelming dissatisfaction with either licence which prompted the change/s? ). So when we apply for anew licence in a format we didn't ask for after a review which we have funded, do we still need to pay for the new copy......

Hi all, just hoping someone could help me on a Part 61 related question:

I have a CPL with NVFR on my current (CAR 5) licence. I am endorsed on VOR and ADF only, not GNSS. I'm aware that navaids are not individually endorsed on Part 61 NVFR ratings.

I want to know how can I fly using GNSS under NVFR? I'm told pre-Sept 1 all I had to do was an En Route GNSS ground course. Has this changed? Have tried asking various instructors (weren't entirely sure), ringing CASA (not even remotely sure), emailing CASA (no response yet) and of course, looking through the legislation but I can't find any reference to what I would need to do. I suppose the only other option is an instrument rating but that's not practical right now. Can someone please help?

You need to attend a ground school for the type of gps to be used eg garmin 400 series , then you can complete a GPSN endorsement , this can be done in flight or an approved sim.

The whole thing should be less than a $1000 .

Ground course $350 - $500
Then about 1 hour aircraft or sim

Then of course you could read the manufacturers pilot manual (it aint rocket science) and go ahead and use the stuff. Just because its in the aircraft dosnt mean you switched it on.http://www.pprune.org/images/icons/mpangel.gif

Thorn Bird,

Yes your correct , nothing stopping you playing with the GPS, Just the small problem of a Sticker in your logbook , saying your trained by an approved school and instructor :ok:

Like I said, if its in the aircraft dosnt mean you switched it on, or if you did admit, you did. Sticker or no sticker.

There is no sticker in a book. It all goes on the licence now.
CASA have been asked to review this as there are a number of shortcomings between the AIP and the new rules. Especially related to the enroute nav aids and the ref in the AIP of what qualified means (to use a nav aid).

I believe that any pilot, even day VFR only, can have their licence marked with appropriate nav aids once they have received training. That then allows them to legally use the nav aid as primary nav for day VFR. People use GPS now for nav, there is an avenue to formalise it, so why not make it happen and improve safety?

That AIP 19.1.something note 3 or whatever it is must be the most underused rules in Aus aviation.

It totally baffles me how many people, even in flying training etc simply don't know of its existence.