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Howard Hughes 23rd Apr 2014 10:37

Bean counting is not my area of expertise! ;)

Desert Flower 23rd Apr 2014 10:57


and the little door at the front, it'd be nice not to have to push past the pax on the way through!
That part I would have to agree with, especially when you've got a 6'6" pilot who wears size 13 boots!

DF.

Captain Nomad 23rd Apr 2014 11:10

And don't forget range... PC12 beats the King Air hands down in that department.

VH-XXX 23rd Apr 2014 11:30

You could fly around NZ twice over on a tank of juice in a KingAir eh bro?

Jabawocky 23rd Apr 2014 11:31

should this thread have ever changing Titles as well?? :E

Howard Hughes 23rd Apr 2014 11:41


And don't forget range... PC12 beats the King Air hands down in that department.
In a single pilot aeroplane, the aircraft's range is directly proportional to the size of the pilots bladder! ;)

Stationair8 24th Apr 2014 00:11

Don't reckon the Kiwis would worry about using grandma's chariot or the Lance on steroids for aeromedical flights when you can operate a Mu-2!

VH-XXX 24th Apr 2014 00:47


should this thread have ever changing Titles as well?? :E
Now now Jabba, this one is 95% still on topic.

pithblot 24th Apr 2014 01:20

Don't forget the cargo door
 
The PC12 cargo door is much easier and quicker to use than the B200 cargo door mod.

Howard Hughes 24th Apr 2014 01:52


Don't reckon the Kiwis would worry about using grandma's chariot or the Lance on steroids for aeromedical flights when you can operate a Mu-2!
Yesterdays technology today? ;)

Wally Mk2 24th Apr 2014 22:59

I would have thought the land of the long white cloud would not be a good environment in which to fly around in a SE at night IMC especially Medivac, I mean you are meant to be saving them not putting them at higher risk as well as the other suckers on-board!:}
If I wanted some glider practice I'd go fly a PC & enjoy the benefits of the glider being powered, for most of the time:)
As has been said ergo wise the PC kills the old Beech but that's cold comfort if the only fan stops over inhospitable terrain!

I guess at the end of the day you need to ask what cost do you put on a life?

Wmk2

Capt Fathom 24th Apr 2014 23:27

Hey Wally, do you have one of those med-alert bracelets that says No PC12 :E

Wally Mk2 25th Apr 2014 00:16

No I don't but gee that's a good idea:ok: One can never have enuf safety features not just 2 engines:)

Wmk2

Stationair8 25th Apr 2014 01:27

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Lindstrim 25th Apr 2014 01:39

Also this one too

Air ambulance services | Life Flight

Al Fentanyl 25th Apr 2014 04:14

There is a significant difference in operating costs - the B200 is LESS. PC12 is maintenance intensive. The B200C has a hydraulic cargo door that is no harder to operate than the PC12. The B200 doesn't actually require cargo door to load / unload stretchers, the airstair is plenty big enough. They are both capable aeroplanes, comes down to personal and organisational preferences.

pelosh 25th Apr 2014 04:22

True, but the PC12 cargo door is much quicker and easier to open and close/lock.
And the position of the stretchers ( on the same side) give you more room to move around. IMO.

P

Desert Flower 25th Apr 2014 04:31


They are both capable aeroplanes, comes down to personal and organisational preferences.
You have to wonder why the Broken Hill RFDS still have KingAirs, given that they fly in pretty much the same sort of territory as the South Australian guys.

DF.

Wally Mk2 25th Apr 2014 05:35

DF the SE Section (BH, DU, SY & LT & EN in the past) did once upon a time some years ago look at the PC I believe but the added cost of training & maintaining a diff type, spares & some of the SE work is contractual meaning twin engine was stipulated all meant nup, to risky/costly, besides the Ambo's union (In Vic when that contract was being drawn up for the start of 2000) where concerned about SE Ops & the members where very vocal about the dangers so that was put to rest once & for all.
The SE Section have had a great run out of the old Beech so there is that thinking that if it ain't broke don't try to fix it:ok:
The old twin V Single, they both have their places in aviation but personally not in Aeromed, they save, not add risk:-)


Wmk2

Desert Flower 25th Apr 2014 05:55


The old twin V Single, they both have their places in aviation but personally not in Aeromed, they save, not add risk
You won't get any argument from me there Wally! The old argument that PT6's never fail just doesn't hold water. I remember one of the Queensland RAAF pilots telling me that he had an engine quit on him on climb out in a B200 once. The aircraft was fully loaded, & he said that if it hadn't been for all the alarms going off he wouldn't have noticed much difference as it was still climbing out as if nothing had happened.

DF.

P.S. You've also just confirmed what I believed to be the reason why the SE section still have KingAirs. ;)


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