Looks to me like it stalled.

The Green Goblin mentioned 2 levers possibly being a culprit, I merely made a comment about what I believe is good practice with flap and gear levers. Where are all the other armchair expert theories ? Oh here How the heck can one say that from that one picture ? An armchair expert ?

Usually the "sudden wind change" is a bit of a farce and a cop out for screwing up but I would truly believe that could have happened yesterday and caught someone out.

"Don't know what to call him . .. but I think he's one of those . .. "

yep . . . too much pull your head in . . .. . . . too much you know SFA . . .etc etc . . does excite the mod man's irrits sooner or later

as old hands know , Barons, Bonanzas etc that featured in numerous oops!!! . . . due the particular placement of the small switches that actuate gear and flap, being selected by mistake. (they are not really 'levers' in the accepted sense of a lever.) For those who may not be familiar . .. .Mr Beech made the plastic mouldings so that flap is a little flap and gear is like a little wheel.

The thing to do is look at the different shape of those switches . . . . know by rehearsal that if you need to whip the gear up smartly your hand will go to the correct one without a moment's hesitation

Pulling the gear up on an early Mooney .. . now that's a lever ..

That's happened in the exact same spot more than once at a Lilydale over the last 20 years!! ( probably still some bits from the last excursion still covered in the dirt!! )

Land long on 18L with a tailwind or a bit fast .......and can't stop.........ground loop before leaping over the embankment.

Last time I saw one was a PA28 about 30 years ago. ( wow I just started to feel old :{ ) I watched the silly bugga do it to, with my mouth hanging open and a "what the......"

Anyone know the length of the strip? :confused: Just curious!

18L is 850 m x 30m grass according to the airfield info sheet I have but it's a couple of years old and they do change the length a bit depending on the surface conditions.

But it ain't that long landing an A36 if it's wet, especially with any tailwind....I know as I've landed A36's there day and night on that runway quite a few times in my younger silly days!!


If it's one of his own Roger will not be happy :sad:

Re-read my comment Lancair, you will see that I include "I don't know anything" which is more than some of you blokes will ever admit.

Just looking a the photo again and the white runway closed markers are in view, knowing LFS they couldn't put them out so fast so they must have been there already. I do recall seeing them there a month or two ago when I drove past.

Mmmmmm if he's landed on 18L and slid up the embankment trying to stop when the runway was already marked closed???????? Either that or he landed 18R and went left 30 deg towards his final resting postion?????

I'll have to dig around and see....

There are at least 5 instructors forming a peanut gallery in the background of the photo, so perhaps they did put the cross on there.

Hardly bent! Why is this news????

Was just sold, new owner doing a check ride, sudden wind change, landed long and fast due to the tail wind, locked the brakes. Instructor was in the right hand seat.

so, did he pass the check ride?

Walked away.

'nuf said. :ok:

Landed long and fast.......instructor in right seat........

Did the instructor consider going around?????

Sounds like the blind leading the blind......:ugh:

Hope that the seller got the cheque cashed in time.....
But it begs the question, what was the instructor doing during all this? Hanging on to the back of it somewhere, it seems.

The old sudden wind change :cool: Seems to happen most often on check rides, first solos, downwind landings, new aircraft and newly purchased aircraft.

I was on the Bay yacht racing at the time. Wind went from southeast to southwest rather smartly, but we could see what was coming in plenty of time..

Why the heck do a check ride in known unstable conditions?

Yep!

That nasty wind change on the bay from the southeast to the southwest would cause chaos at Lilydale!

Terribly unstable conditions for sure! Should have stayed in bed! :ugh:

Gets pretty slippery there in the wet. Obviously hadn't been taught Roger's "anti-skid" braking technique ;)