47-year old C150 damaged in Moorabbin accident
 

VH-RXM - doen't look likely to make it's 50th birthday after this prang: Pair escape injury after single-engine plane crashes at Moorabbin Airport - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)The occupants were more fortunate and walked away. Should be an interesting accident report.

"Flights have resumed but planes are not using the centre runway where the crash happened. "

Maybe I've been doing it wrong, but I'm pretty sure there isn't a centre runway at MB nowadays! Good to hear those on board walked away.

There have been a few pilots over the years that have converted the taxiway into a 3rd (centre) runway.

Once apon a time, it wasn't a taxiway!

I was a lovely aircraft, yellow, known as Romeo Christmas Mike when I flew it in 1971.

Don't those wooden heads love using foam.

A shame it was one of the newer ones. ;)

AFAIK was a TIF being undertaken, yanked too hard, stalled, not enough elevation to recover before ground came rushing at them

L'out, the speculator bashers are going to come out. But, yes, thats whats making the rounds.

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Good to see after 47 years it didn't just fall to bits as the ageing aircraft scene promulgates .... :ugh:

Heard the story from a witness who saw the "take off":ugh::ugh:

Might it have been the old "Cessna Seat Pin" story, although I thought that was a purely a C172 issue?

Not sure; at least the need to check that the seat is indeed locked in place by rocking back and forth before starting the engine was strenuously communicated to all student pilots in the 152s of our club, too.

Saw the impact yesterday. Wasn't a nice thing to watch. I was very relieved to see them both exit the aircraft unassisted.

"AFAIK was a TIF being undertaken, yanked too hard, stalled,"


Giving a TIF person a take off or landing?? "A courageous decision, Prime Minister" More like stupidity on the part of the instructor

Looking back on it I swear I nearly crashed a 152 on landing during my TIF at Moorabbin which was my first time in a small aircraft. Shortly after I wondered why on earth the instructor let it go so pear shaped.

That's the problem with a TIF, you want the potential student to get a good experience the first time to entice them to sign up with you, but on the other hand you need to be safe.

Shouldn't happen on a 172 now, there is a free ( last time I looked) kit from Cessna that adds an inertia seatbelt to the base of the seat that bolts to the floor, stopping the P1 seat shooting back. Just look up the current revision as they keep extending the deadline.

See

http://www.pprune.org/private-flying...seb07-5r1.html

Are you suggesting they shouldn't cover leaking fuel with foam?

How long did it take for the fire trucks to arrive at the scene?



Mickjoebill

Same thing used to happen on Piper Cherokees, too. And (no connection) the bloody door would come unlatched at 1000'!

Adjusting the seat pitch and rocking back and forth to check positive engagement became part of my pre-start checklist.

Never seen either unwanted event happen on a Bonanza!

There's absolutely nothing wrong with letting a TIF student do a take-off or following the instructor on the landing. It is a Trial INSTRUCTIONAL Flight. At what point would you let any other student do a take off? Wait until they get up to circuits?

If the instructor allowed the situation to degrade to the point where the aircraft stalled, (if that even is the actual cause) then there's a bigger issue to be dealt with, but there is nothing illegal or stupid about letting a TIF take off.