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Snazzy101 19th Sep 2013 19:43

Is it just for AUS passport holder's ?

pull-up-terrain 20th Sep 2013 06:23


Is it just for AUS passport holder's ?
Yes, only for Australian passport holders.

Flyboat North 20th Sep 2013 08:13

Open to Australian citizens , Australian Permanent Residents, New Zealand Citizens and New Zealand Permanent Residents

FLGOFF 25th Sep 2013 01:09

There has been talks about cancelling the program and instead taking on people who are already undertaking the Swinburne Bachelor of Aviation course. I hope they don't, as the cadetship gave you some reassurance that you're going to have a career ready for you at the end of the course provided you're successful and pilot demand is still the same.

I would assume next year they will still hold the 2 courses (hopefully), but who knows really. I doubt they'll just announce that they're going to cancel it, they'll probably be more likely to do what Qantas did and just put the whole thing under review and not announce whether they'll start it up again in the future or not.

joprato 25th Sep 2013 06:52

question direct entry
 
Well, i just read the previous posts and it seems normal that cadets would try to do that (booking half a dozen flights at a time to be sure to get planes and intructors...), didn't we all pretty much do the same thing in our flight school ? :p

After all, when it is our dream to become a pilot, don't we want to try to go as fast as possible thru the training program to be able to seat in a jet asap ?

good luck guys !:ok:

mcgrath50 25th Sep 2013 09:21

The Moorabbin refueller tells me Oxford had a contract for a certain number of cadetships, I think 10. Once that's exhausted Jetstar will not be renewing.

FLGOFF 27th Sep 2013 09:48


The Moorabbin refueller tells me Oxford had a contract for a certain number of cadetships, I think 10. Once that's exhausted Jetstar will not be renewing.
Since when is this? I was at Oxford just over a month ago and there was no talk of this.

peterc005 28th Sep 2013 02:10

One problem with the OAA/CAE Jetstar Cadetship is that it as an Associate Degree run thru Swinburne TAFE.

The big OAA/Swinburne course is the Aviation Bachelors Degree run thru Swinburne Uni.

Swinburne had a separate Aviation TAFE department, but this appears to have closed the the students transferred across to RMIT at Point Cook. I guess some of the other Swinburne TAFE students transferred to the Swinburne Uni course.

This leaves the Jetstar Cadet course a bit of an orphan. I can't imagine Swinburne TAFE management is enthusiastic about keeping a department open for just ten students?

checked_and_set 28th Sep 2013 02:24

JQ Cadets come under the umbrella of the University....not the Tafe.

FLGOFF 30th Sep 2013 07:49

Yep. The JetStar Associate Degree is still under the university. It's in the uni's Engineering and Industrial Science faculty.

N5748E 1st Oct 2013 23:41

It's under Swinburne. Unless you are under the Jetstar Asia cadet program, then that's a different story.

jackcelestino 2nd Dec 2013 05:46

Hi everyone, I have applied for the Cadet intake for 2014 and have day 1 of skills assessments tomorrow. My question is: how much should I be expecting to earn during the 18 months of training? I've tried looking all over but can'tseem to find a legitimate answer.

Cheers

The Kelpie 2nd Dec 2013 05:51

Hi jack

You are not employed by Jetstar during the 18 month training period and therefore you will not be paid.

Read the posts carefully - there are many graduates that are still waiting to commence employment.

More to follow

The kelpie

jackcelestino 2nd Dec 2013 06:36

Thanks for the reply, so I must find a casual job ontop of studies to support myself whilst training in Melbourne...

the_rookie 2nd Dec 2013 10:59

I'd advise you to do a bit more study before you jump into something like this.

27/09 4th Dec 2013 01:59


My question is: how much should I be expecting to earn during the 18 months of training?
Another question you need to get actual figures on is: How much will I end up paying? These cost may be indirect as well as direct.

Don't expect any pay during your training.

BlackPrince77 13th Dec 2013 00:46

You don't get paid for anything during the course by Jetstar or Oxford. You will need to find a way to pay for rent/food/living in general during the 17 months at Moorabbin. The course is tough, don't expect to find much spare time after studying to work. I'd have a fair amount of money saved up before starting the course just to help on the living side of things.

As far as course costing, FEEHELP which works like HECS, is a loan from the government which covers course costs up to a maximum of approx $90,000 per person (this amount increases by a couple thousand every year to cater for inflation). The total cost of training is approximately $120,000 for all the phase 1 stuff which is basically everything except the A320 endorsement (which is done overseas and payed for by Jetstar see below). So that means you will need to pay $30,000 to make up the total cost using the full amount from FEEHELP. This $30,000 Oxford will require you to pay over the period of 17 months training at Moorabbin, so its not one bit installment! They will require around $10,000 up front, which covers most of the text books, fuel drain, headset, aircraft manuals, checklists and some aircraft time 30hrs PIC etc. They will ask for further installments every 6 months or so. If you already have a headset and other things they give you, you can save yourself a decent amount of money by not purchasing them. They use Bob Tait PPL, CPL, IREX manuals and DAPS for instrument training, if you have current books of these you can save yourself almost $100 for each book.

The A320 endorsement costs $33,000 which is fully payed for up front by Jetstar, and salary sacrificed by yourself once you are employed by Jetstar during years 2 and 3 of your employment. (Your first year with Jetstar you don't pay anything back for the endorsement)

Your salary with Jetstar will be around $60,000 for your first year increasing to just under $100,000 from then onwards. That's why they don't deduct your endorsement cost during your first year, as your not earning that much...

So in summing up, the actual amount of money you'll need to pay from your pocket is around $30,000. The $90,000 FEEHELP is all payed by the government up front, and you'll pay that back over your working lifetime when you earn over a certain threshold which from memory is $48,000pa, again the threshold increases every year. The $33,000 endorsement is payed for up front by Jetstar so again you won't need to bear any costs from your own pocket initially until employed by them during years 2 and 3 with the company.

Hope this helps, happy flying :ok:

SammK 18th Dec 2013 22:53

Jetstar Cadetship - A summary anyone?
 
Hi all,
I am 15 years old and I'm interested in this Jetstar cadet program at Moorabin a few years after I leave school. I want a summary on the cadetship, pro's and con's, because every other thread on this topic turns into a brawl between the GA and the Jet people.
And incase you want to start whining over the bad salary or something, I'm not interested in the pay once you finish the course.

Here is what I have gathered:

Pros:
All training done in 18 months.
Most likely straight into the RHS of an a320 (but no guarantee)



Cons:
Cost
Interview fees?
Low chance of getting into the school in the first place


If there are any Jetstar cadets reading this, I would love to hear from you.

Thanks

tmpffisch 19th Dec 2013 00:26

Oh dear :rolleyes:. The forum moderators will probably jump in here quickly and move this to an existing Jetstar Cadet discussion; there are many. They deteriorate into a cadet bashing argument very quickly. Regardless, this is posted in the wrong forum; it's not RPT rumour or news.

Sammk, I'd strongly recommend funding your flight training privately and working your way through GA. In the long run, the flight training will cost you half as much, and within 3-4 years you'll be back to sitting in the RHS of a A320 anyway; with MUCH more aviation experience, a far better understanding of the industry (rather than the rose-coloured glasses (some) cadets wear), a far wider network of friends in the industry, and the opportunity to travel and work in parts of this country you never thought you would; and all the great times that comes from it!

SpyderPig 19th Dec 2013 00:34

Agree with all of the above. If you really want the info, start at the start of the jetcadet thread and work your way though. All the information is there, just hidden amongst the brawling.


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