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What if Badgerys Creek goes ahead?

Old 16th Apr 2013, 04:39
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What if Badgerys Creek goes ahead?

What happens to Bankstown's training area, and Camden's CTA?

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Old 16th Apr 2013, 05:59
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Wot if...?

That hoary old chestnut....yet again.!!!!!

Preliminary studies were done covering that area 30 years ago.
See anything on Google Earth yet ???

By the time this comes around again we will all have Anti-Gravity Belts and go where we want, when we want.
Politicians know this, thats why they wont make a decision
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Old 16th Apr 2013, 06:09
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Or.....
The Minister's High Speed Rail will make aeroplanes 'superfluous' for the 'shorter' journeys...thus SY will be less busy.....

But - not in my lifetime Oi rekkon...
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In the meantime the business and financial industries that call Sydney home will start looking to Melbourne because of the chaos that will be Mascot and of trying to fly in and out of that compromised paddock unless something is done and soon about relieving the pressure.

As the business hub moves out, property prices will fall generating panic in the market as so much was borrowed on the expectation that it was secured against an ever-rising property market.

Politicians - pah! A long-term view for them is next week.
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Old 16th Apr 2013, 11:25
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Leaving aside the "It'll never happen" comments, the most recent report is here:

http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/avi...astructure.pdf

Depends on what they build. Camden goes. "severely impact" training area.

It'll likely be up to Mr Abbott after September. Hockey and Turnbull are on the record as wanting it. Abbott himself has been coy about it.
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Old 16th Apr 2013, 13:14
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"....the chaos that will be Mascot and of trying to fly in and out of that compromised paddock....."

PL what do you mean will??
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Back in the early 90s I flew a Feral Garment Minister to the site, where, in front of gathered TV and press cameras, the sod turned the first sod with a silver spade. A sign was unveiled, everybody packed up, we flew back to Mascot, and the pollies pulled their puds for a while in joy.

Then the cobwebs and mould covered the sign, it was pulled down, the Garment sold off the land at a loss (surprise, surprise) and people built more houses over the proposed runway.

it will never happen.
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Old 17th Apr 2013, 02:24
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PL what do you mean will??
Good point. Its a dog's breakfast now and will not get any better.
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Old 17th Apr 2013, 03:11
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Plenty of room for a decent airport in Sydney. Fill in Botany Bay and land on that.
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Old 17th Apr 2013, 04:53
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Chuck the Army off Holsworthy (some 18,000 ha.) and there's enough room for half a dozen airports.
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Old 17th Apr 2013, 05:53
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And enough unexploded ordnance to keep the Civil Contractors treading gingerly
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Holsworthy was one of the locations that was looked in the '90's.The Army resisted ferociously any intrusion on their playground.One of the arguments they threw up was that the entire area was virtually an Aboriginal Sacred Site,something that obviously hadn't concerned them for the 60 odd years that they'd been bombing the crap out of the Sacred Sites with exploding ordnance and ordnance which didn't manage to go bang. German cities,after WW11,were littered with unexploded ordnance most of which was a lot larger than anything ever seen at Holsworthy yet somehow those crafty Germans managed to clear the cities and carry on building.
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Old 17th Apr 2013, 08:53
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No need for any more speculation. Badgery's Creek will be built at exactly the same time as London's second airport.
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Old 17th Apr 2013, 10:46
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London's second airport
Heathrow, Gatwick, Luton, Stansted, umm, that one that was closed thirty years ago, umm, and that other one that was closed, you know the one... Oh and apparently Oxford is now "London Oxford", whaddaya know.



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When McQuarie Bank initially took over Mascot wasn't there in the contract some stupid amount of "compensation" to be paid to them if another civil airport was to be built in the Sydney basin?

Is this not a reason why we will not see another airport for this next generation as the costs are too much.
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Old 18th Apr 2013, 03:16
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From what I read the clause was that Macquarie had first refusal rights to develop any second airport.
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Old 18th Apr 2013, 11:00
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We're hardly broke. Check out Europe to see countries that are broke.
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Old 18th Apr 2013, 12:27
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I think Macquarie have rights to any new airport within 70km(?) of Kingsford-Smth.
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Old 18th Apr 2013, 17:00
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We're hardly broke. Check out Europe to see countries that are broke.
Press Release - The Truth on Debt vs what the Telegraph writes [27/03/2013]



... mind you, this is no excuse to chuck it all away by spending up big on borrowed cash!
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Old 20th Apr 2013, 01:32
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I reckon they should just extend the 16L/34R runway by several hundred metres so that 767's, a330's and 787's can comfortably take off and land on it to reduce the amount of traffic on the 16R/34L runway.
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