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Ex FSO GRIFFO 5th Feb 2013 02:45

Gipsy Major Series 10 Engine - Chipmunk.
 
Due to an 'unforeseen incident' - mechanical failure - with a current Gipsy Major Series 10 engine, I find that I am having to source another of the same.

I would prefer a low time, or a 'zero' time 'Series 10' engine to enable a 'straight changeover'.

All suggestions welcome....keep it clean please....

Cheers

Griffo:ok:

Frank Arouet 5th Feb 2013 04:01

Challinor's Murwillumbah come immediately to mind. I believe they still go under the name Mothcare. They should point you in the right direction.

Aero Engine Services, Hamilton NZ may still be around.

As a wild aside, many of these engines were manufactured in Brazil. (My last one was). Google may still be our friend.

Cheers and good luck.

Ex FSO GRIFFO 5th Feb 2013 04:25

Many Thanks for that Frank.

Unfortunately, Mr Challinor unable to assist at this time.

I'll try NZ.....TA :ok:

Chimbu chuckles 5th Feb 2013 10:00

He's currently on holidays OS for a couple more weeks but Wok Wonarski at YRED did UXD's Gypsy 10...with alloy head, slick mags and sodium filled valves. Those mods apparently address the bulk of Gypsy Major failure points.

PM me for his mobile and I will find out when he's due home.

Wok does a beatifull engine:ok:

Dora-9 5th Feb 2013 10:30

Chimbu,

I've already sung Wok's praises to Griffo, particularly after the lovely job he did on my top overhaul (shouldn't that be a bottom overhaul for a Gipsy??).

Another good source of engine bits/engines/Fairey-Reed props is Chris Harrison - Griffo, email me if you don't have his details.

roundsounds 5th Feb 2013 10:32

Maybe give Glen Caple a go, he is the chief engineer at the Royal Aero Club of WA. He owns a Chippy himself and maintains the Club's machine. A very capable engineer and pilot.

rjtjrt 5th Feb 2013 11:20

Chris Harrison had one advertised for sale recently.

tail wheel 5th Feb 2013 19:13

Gipsy Major 1 Engine - Complete | eBay

Jabawocky 5th Feb 2013 21:58

Wok is the man:ok:

And nobody beats UXD in climb or top end performance either.

Not many ponies in them Gypsy donks so ya gotta make sure they are all thoroughbreds :ok:

Ex FSO GRIFFO 6th Feb 2013 12:56

Thanks Tailie for the link...however, I knew about this one...
Unfortunately, 'tis a Series '1', the Chippy takes a '10'...

Hi Mr round sounds, many thanks for your suggestion.
Glen maintains mine as well....

Hey Jaba, :p 'Dora' has already put me onto 'Wok', - just waiting for him to finish his holiday....

Hey Chimbu - Thanks for the recommendation.
That's why my Tiger had a Series 10 as well.
84 kts IAS after the top o/haul at 2100rpm during rings run in - even the 'wires' were singing...
Then exactly 12 months later, she threw a conrod on No 1 cyl.
'Dora' has some pics....came home 'happily' on 3 cyls at 1800rpm to clear the houses on NIL oil 'cept what was left .....when you see the photos, all will be clear.

TKS again 'Dora'...Still lookin' till I can find one.

'10's are a bit 'scarce' it would seem.....

Thanks again Guys and Gals...:ok:

LeadSled 7th Feb 2013 00:44

Folks,
From memory, if you can find a Mk8 (military) it can be converted to a -10. Try in the UK, including Vendair at Biggin Hill, if they are still around.
Tootle pip!!

27/09 7th Feb 2013 07:39

AESL (Aero Engine Services Ltd) don't exist as such any more, probably morphed into Aeromotives engine shop. Not sure they will have anything.

Try Colin Smith (Croydon Aircraft Co) at Mandeville, he's the DH guru over here but you probably knew that anyway.

There's also a very strong Tiger Moth club, someone there may be able to help.

Tiger Moth Club of New Zealand Inc

Eastern2217 7th Feb 2013 10:52

I'd get in touch with the Bunn brothers down near Albury.

aldee 7th Feb 2013 16:50

Just to throw another "maybe" into the equation the boys at Luskintyre would have to be worth a look
Although predominately tiger folk I'd be surprised if they haven't got a handle on all things Gipsy

ozzieausterdriver 7th Feb 2013 23:54

Gipsy Major 10-2
 
Hi Folks,

I have several 10-2 engines on the shelf - one of which is ready to go and zero timed with all the latest mods and sodium valves/slicks/Ed Clark pistons.:)

[email protected]

Ex FSO GRIFFO 8th Feb 2013 05:23

Thanks 'ozzie',

email sent to address given.

Ta
:ok:

ozzieausterdriver 8th Feb 2013 06:57

Gipsy Engines -
 
Try [email protected] as nothing seems to be coming through on sctelco!

Ex FSO GRIFFO 8th Feb 2013 15:17

Many Many Tks Guys & Gals..

O'ill let yas all know 'ow Oi go.....
Ta Muchly...!!!:ok::ok:

avcraft 10th Feb 2013 20:34

Hey ozzieausterdriver! How about a 1C? I've got an Auster with a lack of oil pressure....

aroa 10th Feb 2013 22:52

Oil be...
 
Avcraft.
Have you been operating during the recent very hot weather and finding "low oil pressure" ?

I had a prob years ago..it was the grade of oil used..it was recommended that a heavier grade be used in very hot conditions.

On departing a place in the tropics around midday after re-fuelling, engine still hot...flickering gauge on low after departure.
Back on the ground..Plenty of oil ...but it was like water in the extreme heat. Checked all fliters etc..no restrictions there.
In the cool of the morning..back to normal, for a belated getaway.

GM manual says "Tropical" above 30C Aeroshell 120, Mobil Green Band
Not sure how these "modern" oils cater for all this.
Fly safe and keep out of the weeds !! :ok:

ozzieausterdriver 10th Feb 2013 23:24

GM-1C
 
Sure do have 1C'S as well as 1CZ engines -

pm for further info if required.

Ex FSO GRIFFO 11th Feb 2013 04:32

Wilco Mr ozzieausterdriver....Thankyou.
:ok:

LeadSled 11th Feb 2013 05:48

aroa,
Green Band is still around.
The problem with some of the excellent modern oils is that individuals in CASA demand that the original manufacturers recommendations be observed, precluding the use of modern oils.
Modern multi-grade oils are way ahead, even in old engines, but my experiences in getting approval to use modern oils that are sold as direct replacements for older single grade oils was, to say the least, disheartening.

In total contrast, of course, to FAA or NZ CAA.

What I would never admit to, in public, of course, would be to the use of some excellent oil additives, specifically developed by the USAF in the '50s, for big radials, which are just as applicable to small piston engines.

Tootle pip!!

blackhand 11th Feb 2013 07:42


but my experiences in getting approval to use modern oils that are sold as direct replacements for older single grade oils was, to say the least, disheartening.
Wasn't aware one needed approval leadsled, just has to be equivelant or better.

CHAIRMAN 11th Feb 2013 11:22

Not good old MMO (Marvel Mystery Oil), Leadie:ok:

T28D 11th Feb 2013 11:49

The MMO works really well in round engines, noneof this if it gets hot it gets thicker stuff.

Just good old thick slippery stuff.

avcraft 11th Feb 2013 20:43

Thanks Aroa, not too hot in NZ though... Mid 20's.. I'm running W100Plus. I've got some investigating to do first, oil level was quite low after landing, approx 3/4 gallon. I need to check the suction side of pump for leaks and the pickup etc. Oil burn is a little high, using about 3L an hour and fouling plugs on 1 cylinder on approach so I'm think ring issues...

Jabawocky 11th Feb 2013 20:43

You guys seriously don't use MMO? Surely a wind up going on here.

As for oils, Leadie is correct about the newer oils with corrosion inhibitors etc (ASL CamGuard) and if you need to run a straight W120 not the W100plus CamGuard would be a worthwhile addition.

As for anything else, you might want red undies, a rabbits foot or anything else you find that gives you warm fuzzy feelings from a superstition.

As for MMO, well if you had some gummed up rings, and you filled a cylinder overnight and let it soak, that could work, so long as you drained it out. MMO is a very light weight paraffin oil, and 25% solvent, 1% dimethylether and some dye and fragrance.

As for adding it t your fuel. Don't.

I can see this thread now taking on a whole new definition of thread drift.

avcraft 12th Feb 2013 00:48

We use MMO for general lubrication on the Kingairs as per Mr HBC's lubrication schedule... Never heard of it used in engines or fuel??!!

Ex FSO GRIFFO 12th Feb 2013 09:29

"DRIFT" APPROVED.......

OVAH!! :ok:

CHAIRMAN 12th Feb 2013 13:28

Aw c'mon Jaba, there's got to be a 'mystery' ingredient in there somewhere, I know fellas that swear by it as a great top end lubricant:{

Jabawocky 12th Feb 2013 21:23

That is the mystery, why they swear by it:confused:

You now ave the recipe to make your own. In fact if I dig up the info, you could have a more specific recipe.

:ok:

T28D 12th Feb 2013 22:40

So wots the recipe ??????

Volumex 13th Feb 2013 01:29

Via BeechTalk, WA and EK :-

MMO is 30 weight basestock, 25% Stoddard solvent (varsol), 1% dichlorobenzene, red dye and wintergreen fragrance.

Linky

Jabawocky 13th Feb 2013 08:20

Thanks for that ST :ok:

I searched for that and failed to find it. :ugh: Mind you breakie was calling!

Ed Kolin is one reliable source of knowledge in this area, and the man behind the ASL Camguard.

rjtjrt 16th Apr 2013 04:08

Ex FSO
Did you have any luck with the Gipsy search?
Jpohn

Ex FSO GRIFFO 16th Apr 2013 06:01

Hi Mr 'r',

I am out of trouble for the moment - as they say.

I have had a damaged engine repaired, and it is 'in and running'.
Still looking for an 'economical' spare Series 10 to go into the Chippy in another 200 or so hours.

Cheers:ok:

ozzieausterdriver 16th Apr 2013 20:33

GM 10-MK2-
 
We have 9 here ready to go ! :oh:

Cj1corbystarlet 22nd Nov 2013 11:09

I'm on the hunt for a Gipsy Major for a new project ...

ozzieausterdriver 23rd Nov 2013 03:26

GM - engine
 
pm for details -


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