Any news on Barrier? Minus the drift.
 

Any news or updates regarding the fate of Barrier. Any of you folk up in Cairns heard any good rumors down the pub?

Gone and almost forgotten... Until of course you started this thread :}

Cactusjack at Cactusjacks
 

Some of us lads were knocking back a few Great Northerns Friday night at Cactusjacks and the only update thus far is that the former FNQ RM is back in town for a spell and the portly BNE CASA Crime Investigator has been sniffing around CNS for the past fortnight...otherwise it is business as usual in FNQ - Sun, humidity, backpackers and operators being shut down!

It's approaching Feb 15.

What's the latest news?
Have the staff hung around without getting paid or have they left for other jobs?

From what i hear most of the Cairns base staff have hung around. My mate didn't say anything about the other bases though. Couldn't blame anyone for leaving, over a month without pay would leave my bank account looking a bit shabby:sad:

Barrier Aviation
 

Pardon my ignorance if it has been raised elsewhere, but with today being February 15th have Barrier had their suspension lifted?

Ahhh... Slam_click, or someone else who knows, for those of us who don't have any real experience with the Australian Legal System, what does that mean? Has the Judge said that it needs to go to the AAT to be worked out and therefore they are still grounded till they seem them next week on the 22nd?

Why would they have no decided this before this date? Do decisions like this needing a government organisations decision reversed need to go to the court first to decide if it goes to AAT?

Uh oh...!
 

Off to the AAT is it. Just remember what happened to J Quadrio. :mad: CDPP reckoned CASA's case against him not a 'goer'...so no court.
Off to the AAT to get his CPL back...and CASA shovelled a big heap of, and the result is history.
Hopefully there will be a JQ Part the 2 ..with a BIG heap shovelled back.
And the outcome for the taxpayer..MUCH more $$s.
And the benefit to the aviation "safety" case...as usual...ZERO.!!! :mad:

You have to hand it to some of those CASA chaps and chapesses..they can sure do a major cock-up! :mad:

Or......

Maybe CASA got it right. And in the prevailing 6 weeks have been able to ascertain (as much as one could in such a short time frame) the extent of the non-compliance. Some of you blokes must be dreaming if you think for a second that CASA won't have a case strong enough to support the grounding of the 'airline'. I've heard some massive numbers being bandied around with respect to NCN's. And if I was a betting man I'd wager heavily that consideration to the restoration of the AOC will be stalled until each and every one of those NCN's is acquitted.

But that's just a guess......and gambling's a mugs game. The proof will be made public all too soon and I'll be happy to eat my words if I have it wrong.

D::hmm:

From what I hear CAsA tried for a 28 day extension to the grounding and didn't get it. Instead were forced into mediation. :ouch: According to CAsA's tweets they are happy with this, but my mate has said Barrier have been asking for talks with CAsA for a while now with a stern NO being the reply to any such requests. Funny how they're happy to talk, now that they have to.:hmm:

edit - from the horses mouth

Defenstrator,

I think you've got it wrong, today was CASAs big chance to present evidence and witnesses, yet it would appear they didn't, why is that do you think? .

They went to court, the magistate apparently did not issue CASA another 28 days, why is that do you think? .

Apparently ordered to mediation, why is that do you think?.

If you get caught doing 80 in a school zone, would the court order you into mediation with the police service? .

Model litigator...........

Josh,


Unfortunately, it's not as black and white as being caught doing 80 in a school zone. Barriers solicitor alluded to the fact that CASA had concerns about the safety of the Horn Island operation. CASA's initial media release stated:

"CASA has evidence of Barrier Aviation directing pilots to fly with serious and known aircraft defects, as well as not recording those defects on aircraft maintenance documentation when the defects became known."

Rumor has it this evidence was in the form of a snag book (let's not get into a debate about the legalities of this - its not legal!). CASA look at this, then the MR and soon work out what's going on. This warrants further investigation, and when considering the potential safety risks from letting barrier fly with evidence of "serious and known defects", they had no choice. One must cover ones own arse, and CASA are good at that.

This evidence however is not the smoking gun. In order to prove the alleged occurred, it requires further investigation. Just let the investigation take its course, all will be revealed.


Dash

The little black book
:=

6 weeks...
 

a short time frame.? How much paperwork is there?. If there's mobs, then overtime is 'go', or lay on extra staff.
And there's that mantra, they so often trot out..under-staffed and "overworked"

Well might they have some serious poo on Barrier, and you can rest assured that they will be looking for every un-dotted i and un-crossed t, however trival, to build up the Hit file.
As for the extra 28 days, thats for more financial nails to drive into the Barrier coffin.
Remember..this is an outfit that does NOT play by Queensbury Rules.

Local historical example ..had 119 charges on operator xxx, got busted on five, minimal fines and a 2 year good behaviour bond.!
Bloody courts! :mad:

Directions hearing today?
 

So any word on how the AAT mediation conference went...the directions hearing is listed this morning so I suppose we'll be hearing soon the outcome of mediation :( or :ok:: Lets hope for a positive outcome for DK and his crew!:O

Heard its in the hand of administrators...? Might be bull$hit... Nothing on the web or in CNS post

At least two, maybe three, Barrier Bongos spotted at Mareeba earlier this week.

testing 123

One BN-2a-26 Islander listed 'For Sale' in Feb. edition of 'Aviation Trader'...
ex Mareeba....along with an Aztruk,

Any connection with current 'financials', or just co-incidence I wonder..?

Hope you Guys & Gals 'come out OK'...

Cheers, and Gooood Luck...:ok:

According to 7 Local News tonight (1800 22/02/13), another week's grounding and in that time CASA to decide whether to issue a Show Cause Notice.