NAIPS and NAIPS for Windows and AIS/MET Changes
 

I have recently noticed this on the top of the Briefing pages and a new project web site....interesting...


AIS/METCover Page

NOTE1. Changes are coming to the Pilot Briefing Website in OCT/NOV 2012.

A new 'NAIPS Internet Service (NIS)'will totally replace the

existing Pilot Briefing website, NAIPSfor Windows (NfW) and

AIS/MET in the coming months. Much ofthe functionality of NfW will

be incorporated and many new featuresintroduced in this new online

tool.

There will be no cost or charge for theenhanced service provided

by NIS.



NOTE2. With the introduction of NIS and retirement of the AIS/MET System, A

NAIPS User ID and Password will berequired for individual's access.

These are available by registrationwith the NAIPS HELP DESK (Phone

1800 801 960) or online at the PilotBriefing Services webpage.





NAIPS Cover Page

Note 1. Changes are coming to the Pilot Briefing Website in OCT/NOV 2012. A new NAIPS Internet Service (NIS) will totally replace the existing Pilot Briefing website, NAIPS for Windows (NfW) and AIS/MET in the coming months. Much of the functionality of NfW will be incorporated and many new features introduced in this new online tool. There will no cost or charge for the enhanced service provided by NIS.Note 2. ICAO has changed Flight Planning procedures and this is to be introduced in Nov 2012. Information can be found on the airservices website, Projects menu in the ICAO Flight Planning Amendment 1 section.Note 3. With the introduction of NIS and retirement of the AIS/MET System, NAIPS User ID and Password will be required for Individuals access and available by registration with the NAIPS HELP DESK Phone 1800 801 960 or register on line from the Pilot Briefing Services webpage. Airservices projectinformation…

http://www.airservicesaustralia.com/projects/naips-project/



Airservices Pilot Briefing Services (NAIPS) project


NAIPS is being upgraded to improve the internet-based Pilot BriefingServices. This project also includes the decommissioning of NAIPS for Windows(NfW) and the start of the retirement process for the AIS/MET legacy system.

The improved Pilot Briefing Services will be known as the NAIPS InternetService (NIS) and will incorporate functions currently available in NfW and theexisting website. This will allow all users, not just Windows PC users, toaccess them.

Users will be able to upload their existing NfW files to NIS. These includeFlight Notifications, SPFIB and Aircraft Profiles. Once uploaded, they will beable to be stored on the NAIPS server so can be accessed from any computerusing a standard browser. Additionally, users will be able to create andself-manage all these stored templates independent of Airservices BriefingOffice.

Prior to commissioning of NIS, you will be given more information, includinginformation about timing. However, we anticipate that work will be completed inOct/Nov 2012.

Additional changes to the ICAO Flight Notification Form will also beimplemented by November 2012. More details are available on our ICAO Flight Planning Amendment 1 page.

Improved functionality


The following additional functionality is also provided:

1. Improved site navigation
The new interface includes a new menu panel that will allow you to moveeasily from one area to the next.

2. Groups
The concept of ‘Groups’ has been introduced. Members in a group will beable to share stored Flight Notifications and Briefings while retainingindividual logon credentials. Users will be able to create and manage groupsthemselves.

3. Avfax
Avfax has been expanded to allow you to create and store your own CustomCodes. A fax number is no longer required.

4. Account management
You will be able to register yourself and manage your accounts includingchanging passwords and details. A forgotten password facility has beenprovided.

5. Password security
To make passwords more secure, they will need to be a minimum of seven (7)characters and must contain a mixture of alphanumeric characters. The Avfax PINwill be based on the first four (4) characters.

NIS user documents
 

Saw this change that may interest all...


NAIPS-Internet-Service-Getting-Started-Guide.pdf

NAIPS-Internet-Service-User-Documentation.pdf

"NfW software will no longer connect to the NAIPS database post NIS commissioning."

i wonder if that includes ozrunways, avplan, command flight planner, etc or if they will lose this functionality on that same day.

if so i hope the website has been thoughly testing on smart phones. i know alot of people don't think naips for windows is needed but as someone who often uses naips on below average internet connections i have always thought it has its place

Lets just say we are all super busy rebuilding everything for the 27th. The timeframes that we and OzRunways are further compressed as we need to get stuff reviewed by mapple.

We only got access to a test environment two days ago, and lets just say our experiences to date have been underwhelming.

Challenging times for sure!

Bevan..

My iMac will be very upset!

What Bevan said.

If they can fix our access issues soon so we get full access, we might just make it, but Apple can still throw a spanner in the works. :(

And then we need to make some more changes just another week or two after when there's a change in flight planning forms.

Bust out the *popcorn* for the million calls to Bris briefing.

it's good to here you have been given some dev time, even if it isn't much. Will there be much of a change for the user within the apps or is it just a few extra fields like on the new flight notification form?

i do plan on putting the briefing number in my phone before the 10th, just in case.....

So does anyone know the actual rollout dates? It just says Oct/Nov 12 on the ASA website. What can we expect on the 27th Oct and/or 10th Nov?

The new NIS system goes live on the 27th of October. This introduces a whole new interface that the likes of AvPlan and ozrunways are busy coding for. This is the date when NAIPS for windows stops working, if you use that at all.

Then on the 12th will come the new flight plan format, adding a whole lot more codes on item 10, and a few other changes. This also means AvPlan and ozrunways need to change again.

In AvPlan's case everything that we can test looks like it works, but we as yet cannot test flightplan/sartime submission, or NAIPS charts functionality.

Bevan..

It seems the functionality will be similar to NfW - from Pilot briefing page:

A new NAIPS Internet Service (NIS) will totally replace the existing Pilot Briefing website, NAIPS for Windows (NfW) and AIS/MET in the coming months. Much of the functionality of NfW will be incorporated and many new features introduced in this new online tool.
Please note: You do not need to register for NIS. Your existing NAIPS logon will be transferred to NIS.
There will no cost or charge for the enhanced service provided by NIS.
Visit the NAIPS Internet Service Project page for more information.

****e, settle down fpvdude. Things do change you know, :rolleyes:.

If there hasn't been much consultation, obviously the changes won't be of that much significance that we need to learn all about them.

And where does it say that it'll be decomissioned and then not implemented for 2 weeks?

morno

The new NIS web interface will be live on the 27th. This will replace NAIPS for Windows.

Its java based, and apparently does (almost) everything that NAIPS for windows did.

It even seems to work OK on the iPad - havent tried it on the iphone or any other mobile thingie as yet.

fpvdude,

I suggest that you check the links above to the user manual and getting started guide. Do some reading on the airservices projects webpage too huh?

Airservices Pilot Briefing Services (NAIPS) project

and the other page of interest...

ICAO Flight Planning Amendment 1

Sources tell me that the timing of the change is scheduled for Sat Night 27th Oct to roll out the NIS....So from say midnight 27th Oct, NFW will be dead. Wake up Sunday morning and use NIS.

....and because I RTFM... I see that NFW files (SPFIB, Flight Plans and Aircraft Profiles) are able to be imported into NIS for use and storage online.

The ICAO mandated flight plan change is to roll out on Sat Night 10th Nov so again, wake up Sunday Morn, 11th Nov and flight plan with the new format.

Jeez Slug,

Now I gotta learn another system..??

2 in 20 years...... ****e:ok::ok:

I was glad when dectalk and avfax were no longer only available over a phone/fax line. NAIPS was a good step forward, I am sure this will make life easier again.

FYI, NFW cr@ps all over the current web version, and from what I have seen will also still be better than the new NIS. The world is not all Apple you know...

There has been; all of the Australian owned and based international full-service airlines have been involved for quite a while! :ok:

Great, just what we need. Bloated java crap when trying to submit a plan on a dodgy connection. HTTP POST worked great in this environment, doubt Java will do the same.

Wow, not sure how I missed this one.
I am sure all will be ok and this is not going to be Y2k (look it up Gen Y) however if you are a small operator and worried just make sure to have a blank paper copy of the Domestic Flight Notification Form and a fax machine handy. Yes yes it's Neanderthal technology but how hard is it to dust the old girl off just in case?

Have fun!



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Trust me, if you can work out how to post on this Internet forum, you will be able to work the new website.

The server backend is Java; you are not working in some Java Applet when trying to submit a plan! That's just pretty good HTML. Just don't try to use the "back" button in your browser. Hope they can fix that issue, 'coz that's pretty lame.

Ahh maybe there is still hope!

The website is a *huge* improvement over what you have now and I doubt you will miss NAIPS for windows for even a second.

The only issue is the 3rd party apps getting very little time to implement and test, as well as some missing features for us. (For now: charts and restricted area briefing)

Command Flight Planner
 

Just to add to what Bevan and others have said. Command Flight Planner has been modified to allow the user to switch between old and new NAIPS interfaces, and current and new flight notification formats. We intend releasing before the 27 Oct date but at the moment a few missing (upstream) functions and testing interfaces are holding things up. I have seen the new web-based NIS interface and it is indeed an improvement on the old. It has some ability to import information from NAIPS for Windows but I cannot comment on its utility in that regard. Cheers, Chris

H32/12 - Changes to Airservices Pilot Briefing Services, NAIPS for Windows and AIS/ME
 

AIC H12-32 has been issued.

H32/12 - Changes to Airservices Pilot Briefing Services, NAIPS for Windows and AIS/MET

NOTAM out too:

YMMM C6308/12
ELECTRONIC BRIEFING AND SUBMISSION OF FLT NOTIFICATIONS NOT AVBL
DUE NAIPS INTERNET SERVICE (NIS) INSTALLATION AND COMMISSIONING

THE FLW FACILITIES NOT AVBL:
-INTERNET BRIEFING AND FLT NOTIFICATION SUBMISSION
-AVFAX/METBRIEF/AERIS/VOLMET
-OPERATIONAL INFORMATION VIA FLIGHTWATCH
-STORED FLT FILES HELD IN NAIPS
-INTERNET MET AND NOTAM BRIEFING FM THE AISMET SYSTEM

THE FLW FACILITIES ARE AVBL:
-PHONEAWAY CARD PHONE AND FAX SUBMISSION OF FLT NOTIFICATIONS 1800
805 150
-BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY AVIATION WEATHER BRIEFING AT
WWW.BOM.GOV.AU/AVIATION

FLIGHT NOTIFICATIONS HELD AS NAIPS FILES WITH AN ETD PRIOR TO 1800UTC
SHOULD BE LODGED BEFORE 1100UTC
FROM 10 271200 TO 10 271800

Any updates on how IOS and Android software is looking come Monday? I use the NAIPS for iphone & ipad app quite a bit - is it likely to be functional when the old system drops dead?

NAIPS update has been approved by Apple. Only 80% of the features re-implemented due to the short time-frame given access to the test system. TODO are SPFIB and cancel/amend plans.

Couldn't get Apple to do an expedited review of OzRunways, so that will be a week before weather is working again in it.

Thanks for the update Shagpile.

AVPLAN Ipad/Iphone App ready for NAIPS changes
 

Wow NAIPS flight planning finally made it to the web. 10 years too late:*

If you get sick of the crap (but slightly improved new) ASA NAIPS Internet Service raw text interface use the AVPLAN app on Ipad or Iphone.

It's passed full ASA testing with the NAIPS briefing/plan submission changes planned this weekend.

In the 21st century systems should consolidate,link and graphically display information for us. NAIPS raw text briefing/flight planning is a poor presentation of a huge amount of information.

AVPLAN is like a good flight ops/planning department preparing you a professional customised briefing pack - without the paper!

Do yourself a favour and get a pilot productivity tool like OzR or AVPLAN , invest a little time in reading the manual and get lots of time back to go flying...

If we have to change this weekend turn it to your advantage:ok:

My 0.02c

Looks like NAIPS still not working - can't login via web and us App developers still can't reach the live server either.

Maybe someone should call briefing to get an updated NOTAM about the outage...

Why does an updated NOTAM matter - how would anyone find out about it

:)

Edited: actually they will now. We've flicked back to the old interface:

I hear Alanis Morissette is including this as a line in her next song about Irony

I hear the TAB was paying out $0.90 on Airservices not getting the new NIS working for today, :E

So now we have all this updated software that won't work......

morno

Confirmed - they have reverted back to the old system for the next couple of days:

https://www.airservicesaustralia.com/brief/Default.asp?

Not sure what you mean there Morno - In AvPlan's case (and others too I assume) the old interface is operational and still works.

We'll wait and flick the switch over to the new interface when it is ready.

My only concern now is testing the flight plan 2012 changes, and getting that ready for the 12 of November. This delay means the time frames to get that in are even further compressed.

We've written the code, but it remains untested. Until we can test we cannot submit to Apple and have it in the hands of our customers in time. Apple approved the last update in 9 hours, and I am unsure that they are going to do it again...

Fun times, to be sure!

Bevan..

A saying involving a fist full of $50 notes and a house of ill repute comes to mind.

NAIPS Logon
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28-Oct-2012 0025 UTC

Welcome to NAIPS

Note 1. Due to unforeseen technical issues, the NAIPS Internet Service deployment
has been delayed.

NAIPS web interface remains the previous Pilot Briefing Service and
NAIPS for Windows software.

Please contact airservices briefing office for assistance if required.

Note 2. Successful submission of all FPL will be confirmed by the receipt of a
NAIPS acceptance message. Pilots should check this message for accuracy
and retain or print a copy.


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Benefit of Experience
 

Old Mate Akro,

Why don't you give AsA a call and give them the benefit of your experience at such establishments?

:ok:

Slug