Tasmanian Air Adventures
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Tasmanian Air Adventures (TAA) is the creation of former Qantas 747 pilot Christiaan Durrant and fellow aviator and adventurer Timothy Robertson, who plan to connect visitors with iconic wilderness sites across Tasmania. http://tasmanianairadventures.com.au...lease_Dec_2011 |
Or more importantly, has anyone been successful in getting the advertised position? I wasnt unfortunately:sad:
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couldnt work for 2 better blokes, all the best with their operation, has quite a bit of potential
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A great opportunity for someone to get into floats. All the best for those who have applied!
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Well, good to hear some good news people around here !!!
They have a nice bit of kit to start off with. A lovely beaver which has been around a bit. I thought the requirements was at best, well almost bizar personally. Wish them the best of luck. :ok: |
Seems there must be a specific Tasmanian requirement for the pilot to possess a Restricted Coxwain's certificate. Either that or the pilot is required to drive a commercial vessel as part of his or her responsibilities. Good luck getting that ticket in a hurry, you'd be up for near 6 months solid on a boat !
The Coxwain's certificate is an interesting set-up. Conceivably you could fly an A380 full of passengers as F/O or almost Captain in the same amount of hours that it would take to get a Coxwain's certificate to drive a 5 meter runabout up a quiet river with paying passengers onboard! (1500 hours) |
When I got my float endorsement, I had to get a boat license as well.
And the floatplane was also registered as a boat, with the boat rego painted on the floats. Don't know if it's the same these days. I've been on dry land a while now! |
Seems very different in each state.
We went through this with Marine Safety Victoria a few years back. Their opinion was as long as the pilot is appropriately trained and the aircraft was registered under a national body, then that over-rode their requirements. They suggested that a boat licence would be highly regarded however wasn't required. They were happy if we proved that there were an appropriate number of MSV questions in the float-plane rating exam. As I understand it the Melbourne based Seaplane operator has a Coxwain's certificate from his background, but they told us it wasn't required. Puts him in a good position though in case they change their minds later on. |
All depends from state to state. When I first started I had no 'water' experience so got a boat licence anyway.
Heard rumours that QLD is the only state not to require floaties to have one, but either way it has come in very useful! My advice to anyone interested in floats, have a boat licence before you start training. |
I'd love to apply having flown and instructed on the Beaver F/P but no boat license or Coxswain Cert. Plenty of sailing experience though...counts me out!
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Ejector: not bizarre actually;
VH-XXX: you've got the right idea: I've heard from a good source that the need for the boat ticket is not for the seaplane, but for a commercial boat which is part of their setup. And I believe the job is still open rocket66. Good luck to those who apply |
In TAS I thought Coxswain's had been dropped as a requirement due to previous Floatplane operators - KP & TM - arrangements with the powers that be ... no chance of getting a ticket in a hurry ... mandatory courses run irregularly and demanding experience requirements ...
... (typing when Watergypsy posted) ... |
Maybe there is a boat involved, perhaps ferrying people from the shore to the platform or similar.
I liken that to having to have a commercial licence to ferry people in a bus from a hotel to the airport for joy flights. |
It's the requirement for seaplane 'husbandry' that has me worried!
Hus-band-ry - The application of scientific principles to agriculture, especially to animal breeding. I mean I like Beavers as much as the next guy, but a man's gotta have a limit!:eek: |
If you have a CPL, float endorsement and a boat licence then I can't see why you really would need that extra ticket to transfer paying pax at 5-15 knots to the plane which is technically a boat until you depart the water at somewhere in excess of 50 or 60 knots (depending on aircraft type of course), which the above mentioned licence permit you to do.
Of course, we all know that various authorities don't always subscribe to common sense. :cool: |
Not sure what all the whinging is about?
This operator has requested certain requirements as a prerequisite of the job! It's their train set. |
In Tasmania while the aircraft is on the water it is classed as a boat and for commercial operations requires a coxswain's certificate. It is not for the boat trip to the pontoon but while taxying on the water.
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PLovett In Tasmania while the aircraft is on the water it is classed as a boat and for commercial operations requires a coxswain's certificate. It is not for the boat trip to the pontoon but while taxying on the water. |
Certainly was the case for a previous operator in Tas.
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PL: see my previous comment ref boat ticket
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Certainly was the case for a previous operator in Tas. There is no CASA requirement for a boat license, there is no insurance requirement for a boat license and MAST (tassies boat mob) have never been known to police the issue. MAST do verbally state a boat license is necessary but would not be capable or interested in policing the matter. |
http://www.mast.tas.gov.au/domino/mast/mastweb.nsf/v-lu-all/Publications~Incident+Investigations~Near+Miss+-+'Marana'+and+Seaplan+-+Apr+2002+/$FILE/Investigation%20-%20Marana%20&%20Seaplane%20VH-DRI%20-%2006-04-2002.pdf?OpenElement
Hidden away, but the above document discusses licences etc as far as MAST are concerned - IF there was an incident/accident, and the pilot didn't hold every required licence , then you know damn well what would happen ... respectfully saying the issue isn't policed is an ignorant comment. "Certificate of Competency required to be held when in charge of a seaplane while it is operating on any Tasmanian waters. (This is in addition to the necessary flying qualifications which are required by the Civil Aviation Safety Authority) A MAST issued 'Limited Coxswain' Certificate. (This is required in order to ensure that the pilot has a basic understanding of seamanship and the Collision Regulations)" Saying that the pilot has a pilots licence should be enough, is like saying he doesn't need a drivers licence either. :rolleyes: |
Suppose we need a bus licence too, to taxi after landing on regular runways. Onya Tasmania.
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Suppose we need a bus licence too, to taxi after landing on regular runways. Onya Tasmania. It makes sense to me that while operating on the water, a pilot should know how to avoid collision with other water users, how to interpret channel markers and the like. :rolleyes: The Limited Coxswain certificate was a qualification only recognised in Tasmania, and it ceased to be issued on the 31 December 2002. The Limited Coxswain certificate has been replaced by the Coxswain (Restricted) certificate. |
It makes sense to me that while operating on the water, a pilot should know how to avoid collision with other water users, how to interpret channel markers and the like. |
It makes sense to me that while operating on the water, a pilot should know how to avoid collision with other water users, how to interpret channel markers and the like. As best I am aware, the current MAST requirement for seaplane operations in TAS is a power boat license. This license is relatively easy to get. |
Maybe the experts at MAST, think that it could be away of preventing another Lake Illawara incident with the Tasman Bridge?
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Some good news for a change......
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Second seaplane ready for action in Tasmanian skies as TAA passenger numbers soar | Life and Lifestyle | Lifestyle and Living | | The Mercury Way to go TAA :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D |
Good ol' IMU. She had a whole lot of work done on her floats not long ago so should be a good work horse now. :ok:
Are they leasing it or did RJ get rid of her? |
Great to see TAA on the expand again, hope it works out.
Also nice to see Terry Mulholland get a mention:ok: Seaplane plan takes off | The Examiner Plans for a commuter seaplane to operate between Hobart and Launceston have been labelled a ``fantastic idea'' by Launceston's Mayor Albert Van Zetten and a city entrepreneur. Tasmanian Air Adventures announced this week that it was looking to invest in a 12-seat float plane, aimed at providing a commuter service to regional areas in Tasmania. It hopes to provide a service between Hobart's waterfront and Launceston's Seaport for $200 return, as well as other services to Strahan and World Heritage Areas in the South-West. TAA director of operations Tim Robertson said the $1 million to $1.5 million project was still in its early stage, but could be operating by summer if there was enough support. ``If we get the numbers and get the appropriate amount of support, we could very well see a regular service [between Launceston and Hobart],'' Mr Robertson said. He said a trip from Hobart to Launceston could take between 25 minutes and an hour, depending on routes. ``We're focusing on infrastructure we're building in Hobart at the moment,'' he said. ``But one of the great things about the seaplane is it doesn't need any infrastructure at the end.'' The only infrastructure it needs to land is a dock, which is already in place at Seaport's Home Point. The dock was used regularly more than a decade ago when Terry Mulholland operated Tamar Seaplanes from 1997. Launceston developer Errol Stewart, who is developing the $20 million silos hotel on North Bank, said the idea was fantastic. ``Whether it came into the silos or the Seaport, there'd be plenty of spots for it,'' he said. ``You're getting right into the heart of the city and the same with Hobart. ``If you go to a place like Vancouver in Canada, seaplanes come in and out like buses. ``You have to get people using it of course, but I think it's great.'' Alderman van Zetten welcomed the idea saying it would be great for business people to travel quickly between cities. The project is an expansion on what TAA already does and is a way to open up remote areas of the state. The company hopes to know more about costs and whether it can operate the service this summer, by September. |
Caravan EX on floats with the lease program that Cessna runs?
The extra 200hp would make it a completely different machine as an Amphib/Float |
good on them :ok:
any RPT operators on floats in AUS though? |
Stationair8 I'm a lake illawarra local and haven't heard of this incident, but I'm always on the lookout for things to make fun of. Care to elaborate?
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Thanks Fanning, nice to see someone willing to help out. What did you come up with?
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Thanks mate, I did google aforementioned incident. Who'd have thought the "Lake Illawarra Incident" had nothing to do with a lake named Illawarra?
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economics
for anyone in the know:
assuming it is a caravan, is $200/flight /person a reasonable price? Surely flights would need to be near full every time for it to make a return? avtur etc |
lilflyboy262...2 Caravan EX on floats with the lease program that Cessna runs? The extra 200hp would make it a completely different machine as an Amphib/Float |
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