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CASA investigates
Aviation authorities will begin their investigations into the star of Keeping Up With The Joneses on Wednesday, with the Northern Territory-based flight company boss facing fines of thousands of dollars. Jones is alleged to have committed a host of safety breaches during the 10-episode series, which screened on Network Ten last year, including using a helicopter to tow his 15-year-old son Beau for water-skiing. The investigation was launched when Civil Aviation Safety Authority investigator Mark Haslam allegedly saw on the program in November a series of safety breaches. He then watched seven other episodes - available on Channel 10's website - and allegedly identified more breaches. In March, the authority was granted a warrant to raid the offices of Jones's production company, WTFN, where they seized DVDs containing raw footage and out-takes. Jones failed in an attempt to have the warrant overturned in the Federal Court this month. CASA will begin its investigation on Wednesday when an injunction preventing the authority from examining the DVDs expires. The court also heard that Jones allegedly breached regulations by using a helicopter to collect crocodile eggs without an appropriate licence. He is also accused of drinking alcohol within eight hours of flying and leaving a helicopter unattended with the engine running and rotors turning with children in the back. The investigator told the court CASA needed to view the unedited footage to prove the offences had been committed - or whether they simply appeared to have occurred because of "an editing issue" or "poetic licence" for TV broadcasting purposes. A court spokesman said that Jones had not lodged an appeal. A Channel 10 spokeswoman said the remaining episodes of the series would be screened this year. Jones did not return telephone calls from The Sunday Telegraph. What do you guys think, serious safety breaches or an overzealous regulator trying to find something to do? Orgininal story here |
"CASA will begin its investigation on Wednesday when an injunction preventing the authority from examining the DVDs expires". Very hard to conduct an investigation without access to the evidence......
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...What do you guys think... . |
Only watched some of the series so won't pass comment on his guilt or otherwise, but having said that, if you are dumb enough to do (or give the impression you did) something dodgy and then put it on national telly, then you can hardly squeal if it raises some eyebrows.
Good luck to him, it makes better telly than those inane endless singing/cooking/dancing/reality race/RBT cops bollocks. |
waren9 "Good luck to him, it makes better telly than those inane endless singing/cooking/dancing/reality race/RBT cops bollocks." :D:D haha so very true... as for old mate Jones as you guys said... if he is stupid enough to do it on national TV then he is stupid enough to get caught...
On another point its good to see CASA actually get up and do some real Safety work... :E If only we had a camera to record what some other operators do out there... :ok: |
If only we had a camera to record what some other operators do out there... Reminds me of one of my thoughts about the new draft Part 61 rules - all set up to allow third party organisations, such as the Victorian speed camera operators, to offer a service to CASA in collecting evidence. |
If only we had a camera to record what some other operators do out there... http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...ies/thumbs.gif 19th Jun 2011 15:02 Amazing what you see on FB or Utube put there by the pilots themselves or by unwary passengers. YouTube - ‪HOFO TEST FLIGHT‬‏ |
That links nothing! :}:}
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That last link is a mustering flight. No issues there. Simply looking for cattle to muster with appropriate low level endorsements being held.
An optimist always sees the bright side! Me thinks some of the Jones's issues may appear vastly different when the full footage is reviewed. |
That mustering link might be ok. But the Kakadu link might raise a few eyebrows. I swear I can hear the GPWS going off in the last bit. Maybe getting a little to close the the valley wall on the other side???
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That last link is a mustering flight. No issues there. Simply looking for cattle to muster with appropriate low level endorsements being held. |
I'd say the first one is a aerorescue dornier doing a bit of low level practice and filmed by one of the crew.
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GG, Clearly it's low level VFR nav due stress of weather!:cool:
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PPL test perhaps?
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...just the station owner showing the pilot which paddock they had to muster . |
GG, Clearly it's low level VFR nav due stress of weather! As to the second one, that's certainly due stress of *cough* (perfect) weather :p |
Low Flying Kakadu
This flight was apparently a test flight after the aircraft had come out of heavy maintenance! The video was taken by a non-crew member and it is only part of the full video.
This flight was in contravention of the operators low level approval and flown at close to max speed in total contravention of the low level SOPs. The ground prox audio warning was not ownly ignored but was not reported to the relevant authorities! |
So what gives:
This flight was apparently a test flight after the aircraft had come out of heavy maintenance! The video was taken by a non-crew member and it is only part of the full video. This flight was in contravention of the operators low level approval and flown at close to max speed in total contravention of the low level SOPs. The ground prox audio warning was not ownly ignored but was not reported to the relevant authorities! |
But the Kakadu link might raise a few eyebrows. I swear I can hear the GPWS going off in the last bit. Maybe getting a little to close the the valley wall on the other side??? |
Dornier valid training, Cessna might have been doing the low run of a "precautionary search and landing" checking out landing areas in the riverbed - no problems!:E
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haha love the vids guys! i dont have any like that :E:E the difference is there is no rego's shown etc on yours instead of every man and his dog seeing it on national tv ha
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A lot in this series.
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No doubt the girls were dubbed in coz there is no way u could fit them all in the Aerobat:E
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What an idiot (Criminal). He had no right whatsoever to put his passengers lives at risk just so he can show off.
I hope you have been expunged from the industry. DB |
The ground prox audio warning was not ownly ignored but was not reported to the relevant authorities! |
I suppose you could tick the box in the test flight report that the "GPWS works well" and in the comments section you could put "pax enjoyed the flight, especially the bit through the Kakadu gorges at 100-200' and 250kts, apparently he got some really good video footage while he was moving around the cabin".:D
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So someone must know who this is? It was on 12-3-2007 at 1770 / Agnes Waters... hopefully the wings are still on that aircraft safely.
Is he commercial, is he an instructor? Passenger manipulating the controls, rapid and near full control deflection by the passenger, lands on the beach and swaps over passengers, numerous aerobatics including inverted flight. All in a 172, WITH 4 POB... Dumb, not to mention illegal. Low level through a gorge is one thing, but this is something else. http://members.iinet.net.au/~bc_j400/1770.jpg http://members.iinet.net.au/~bc_j400/1770-1.jpg http://members.iinet.net.au/~bc_j400/1770-2.jpg http://members.iinet.net.au/~bc_j400/1770-3.jpg http://members.iinet.net.au/~bc_j400/1770-4.jpg http://members.iinet.net.au/~bc_j400/1770-6.jpg http://members.iinet.net.au/~bc_j400/1770-7.jpg |
Someones going to jail!
Hell hath no fury like the CASAs scorn :ouch: |
Google gives you the name in about Two seconds.
Could CASA please have this stupidity stopped? We do not need Three more dead European backpackers. At full aft CG this stuff is not very wise. |
How stupid is he??? Have to agree the footage is very damning!!:=
Like all things in life it is the minority that give the rest of us a bad name. Idiots that are represented in this thread, so far, should be found, prosecuted and expunged from the industry! In VMC a ground prox warning needs to be reported? Reporting of TAWS/GPWS ‘PULL UP’ Warnings All flight crew who receive a ‘PULL UP’ warning should raise an Air Safety Report (ASR) detailing all known circumstances. ATCOs who become aware of such occurrences should do likewise and their organisation should then advise the Operator. Aircraft Operators with a flight data monitoring programme should have an automatic alerting system for any recording which contains such an occurrence, and this should support an investigation already initiated by receipt of an ASR or prompt the commencement of a new investigation. http://www.australiantraveller.com/i...d/duncon01.jpg |
Sarcs
I note your reply, but a "general principle" is not legislation, and your quoted paragraph is unreferenced. Your quote uses "SHOULD" rather than definitive terms such as SHALL" or "MUST". A TAW/GPS warning in VFR conditions will be be treated quite differently in a practical sense than one received in IMC. Perhaps this difference may be reflected in the company manuals. Not here to defend anybody, just can't see a blanket IFR/VFR rule. Open to correction though. Cheers |
Are ALL airports and ALA's in a terrain awareness system in such an aircraft? Surely a SAR would have terrain awareness alerts popping up regularly, particularly at non standard and un-licenced aerodromes.
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XXX,
I understand that CASA got the clown in the C-172 on a number of counts including operating without an AOC doing Joy Flights. It was based on the YouTube Vomit Comet footage from the same guy. I hope this isn't a different person to that one. |
Where do you find out about CASA getting people? do they publish it? or is it pretty much word of mouth?
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NCD I totally agree with your sentiments, i.e. the IMC/VMC and practical reasons for not reporting a day VMC EGPWS event.
I came across this ATSB info paper:http://www.atsb.gov.au/media/27543/gpws.pdf But it is more in reference to the previous GPWS not EGPWS and also only refers to main airport activation. However the paper does indicate that reports were made regardless of in-flight conditions! Also bare in mind that the operator in question has a CASA approval for low-level ops. Part of this approval includes Low Level SOPs and checklists. One of the checklist items prior to operating low level is to activate the EGPWS audio inhibit switch (switch is a supp item particular to the operator). This stops all EGPWS audio annunciations etc while the aircraft is operating low level. cheers |
All flight crew who receive a ‘PULL UP’ warning should raise an Air Safety Report (ASR) detailing all known circumstances. Dr :8 |
Wotz the name of the annoying chick in Jaba's retard vehicle? She can be quite annoying at times. I used to have an electronic sounding "passenger" yelling STALL STALL at me whenever I landed. Scared the crap out of me the first time!
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Looks like the joy flight guy forgot to latch his door as well. Check the early part of the video (1:04 min). So much for "hatches and harnesses".
Good point though. Throwing a full plane, which is likely to be close to it's aft CoG limits, around in aerobatic maneuvers at a low altitude. |
CASA will begin its investigation on Wednesday when an injunction preventing the authority from examining the DVDs expires. Or is this another investigation that is going to be caught up in the bureaucratic morass and subsequently lost while someone in CASA finds a nice little bonus deposited in his bank account! |
So is there anymore to this story, or is it as described above?
I really feel for the poor buggers on the coalface whose job it is to investigate these cases. Not only do they have to produce the perfect prosecutable case, they also have to navigate the politics, cronyism, corruption that their superiors have in place. What happened to the good old days where you 'suspended the culprit pending further investigation'?:ugh: When will CASA realise there is no such thing as the 'perfect case'? CASA heavies should grow some 'cohuna's' instead of severely hampering their underlings! Still waiting for the "CRUNCH!!" |
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