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bugsquash1 27th Feb 2011 11:28

Question for the QF 747-400 guys
 
Saw a QF 744 on the bay in HK doing a control check before pushback, is this normal if you have a pushback delay or would it be a problem, no engines running.:confused:

Just of interest it was morning of 24/2 if crew see this.

Bullethead 27th Feb 2011 11:53

G'day bugsquash1,

Unlke the older B747s the B747-400 can pressurise all four hydraulic systems before engine start and complete the control check before pushback. This is standard procedure for QF. There is a combination of engine driven pumps, air driven pumps and electric pumps to pressurise the various systems.

Regards,
BH.

bugsquash1 27th Feb 2011 12:16

Thanks

It just seemed strange to do it before start, but I suppose on the bus we wait for the computers to screw up on start before the control check :E

Fly by wire :mad:

rmcdonal 27th Feb 2011 20:19

Do you complete a second control check prior to T/O? Or just the one on the bay?

regitaekilthgiwt 27th Feb 2011 21:30

Just one on the bay

blueloo 27th Feb 2011 22:55

I don't know why you bother on the bus... who knows what input they will send to the flying controls from one second to the next! :}:}


(FWIW the 767 does the same - preflight procedure is to get a clearance to pressurise the hydraulics and do a control check)


Why on the bus do you need to do a brake check when you taxi (like a cessna 172) - is it because you are checking the hydraulics ? Or you are checking the computers are sending a signal to the brakes?

esreverlluf 28th Feb 2011 00:24

. . . and what happens if the brake test fails?

Is it a bit like, :ok:if at first you don't succeed, so much for skydiving.

caneworm 28th Feb 2011 01:19

re, A330
 
Blueloo
The check is done to ensure there is no residual pressure in the brake system that may cause a dragging brake.


. . . and what happens if the brake test fails?
esreverlluf
If the test fails, ie, you have a dragging brake, you will know pretty much the moment the wheels turn.

cheers 'n beers:ok:


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