Aussie Atpl Airlaw?
Hi there Guys and Gals,
I am just about to sit the airlaw and have a few questions that iam unable to get a clear answer for. Any help on these would be much appreciated. A PIC rostered on a high capacity IFR RPT flight in 4 days time has a Command Instrument Rating endorsed with NDB, VOR, ILS and LLZ. Within the last 85 days, the pilot has flown 2 hours instrument time (one as PIC on the aeroplane and on as copilot on the Company's approved flight simulator). The time included two NDB, one VOR and on LLZ approaches, all flown 33 days ago. The pilot expects an operational requirement to conduct an ILS approach in IMC at the destination. What additional experience, if any, is necessary for the pilot to meet the recent experience requirements for this flight? Two hours instrument flight time One ILS approach One hour instrument flight time One hour instrument flight time including one ILS approach None RPT aeroplanes with a MTOW greater than 5700kg are required to be equipped with certain flight instruments. Which combination of instruments is the minimum number which meets the requirement for provision of HDG information? One gyro-magnetic remote indicating compass and one direct reading magnetic compass One direct reading magnetic compass and two gyroscopic HDG indicators Two direct reading magnetic compass Two gyro-magnetic remote indicating compass One remote indicating compass and one gyroscopic HDG indicator Your aeroplane is fully equipped to operate to Cat 1 ILS approach minima and the relevant data for the destination aerodrome is: Landing minima: RWY 09 ILS (CAT 1)DME - 220ft, 0.8km RWY 09 LLZ DME - 550ft, 2.0km Runway lighting facilities serviceable: PTBL PN, MIRL MAN SBY, T-VASIS What is the landing minima that will apply? 220ft, 0.8km 220ft, 1.2km 550ft, 2.0km 220ft, 1.5km 220ft, 1.7km Thanks again:) |
Best Use the Reg's
Hey Walgi,
For the first question you will require 1 hour + ILS. 33 days plus 4 = 37 days requiring an ILS/LLZ currency. 1 hour instrument flight time to make your 3 hours within the preceeding 90 days. 2nd Q: This was the only question I got wrong when I did mine and had no references with me. If I remember correctly : CAO 20.18 APPENDIX IV or V ( don't hold me to that only from memory) One remote indicating compass and one gyroscopic HDG indicator There is something in the notes regarding this I can't remember. but I answered One gyro-magnetic remote indicating compass and one direct reading magnetic compass and I got it wrong. Sorry but don't take my word for it read the APPDX. 3rd Q: CAT 1 ILS - Without Approach lights can't affect the 800m. Without HIRL can't affect the 1.2 so 220ft, 1.5km is the answer. Hope this helps. |
Thanks alot mate,
I was wondering if i would get a reply:). I had the same problem with number two question. Anyway thanks again iam not on pprune much, however a mate told me to put my questions here and garranteed me someone would answer. cheers and beers |
Hey Walgi,
whilst you're at the topic, just wondering if you got yourself any of the airservices tag/page divider for the ATPL Air Law. I bought some blank one from the airservices website, but not too sure if I could use them, according to CASA there shouldn't a problem, but wanna get a better idea just in case I rock up and have to rip everything out.........posted the question up before, but everyone still quite not sure I guess. Thanks man, good luck!!:ok: |
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Mate i did the exam today and did not bother getting the dividers. Just a quick note if you go on the OzAv site they have a pdf file with lots of questions very similar if not the same questions as the exam. The ones above are off that and the answers above are correct also. Anymore questions..dont hessitate.:) There are only are fiew questions i have found that come from the CARS. cya |
I just finished studying my CAR today.....was going thru the index and try to come up with a way to use the document without any tags~~
Remembering the Jep document would not be fun tho!! btw, have you got a link to this OzAv site you mentioned? how did u go anyway? PA911 |
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Hey,
Late response... may be too late, in fact. Just wondering what answers you actually put (if you got those questions on your exam). For B2Es response, is the 3 hours IR time in 90 days a typo and youre actually referring to the 3 hours time mentioned in CAO 40.1.5 11.3(b) that needs to be covered in 35 days? And we regards to question 2, when referring to AP II (Aeroplanes in RPT) It states under section 5 that a gyro-magnetic type of remote indicating compass may also be considered to meet the requirement for a heading indicator specified under 1 (h). Consequently, I cant figure out why the first answer isnt correct... am I missing some one-worded detail?? (I attempted the exam and failed last week.. after reviewing the question I got wrong, almost all of them were due to me missing one word which ultimately changed the answer) Please help, my exam retest is on Tuesday!! Oh and on a side note for people reading this attempting the exam... my exam included all but 3 of the questions on the practice exam posted on this page. If only I had seen the practice exam sooner! |
Hah, nevermind... Not sure why I opened 40.1.5 for Q1..
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To anyone that's studying atpl airlaw?
If you really put the effort in and have read all the required documentation and you feel you're ready for the exam. I strongly recommend to get the "Trevor Thom airlaw exam book", which consists of 3 trial exams. If you pass these then you'll pass the real exams. But only do the trial exams when you have completed your course of study and feel fully prepared. Don't play with trial exams and just learn the questions and answers. |
I'm slowly learning that the best advice for Air Law is "RTFQ"... a single word swings the answer completely. Although I must admit...some of the questions seem somewhat subjective... Questions regarding Adelaide curfew times and fixed fuel reserves seem to have different answers from text book to text book
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Minger,
Have just had a go at this practice exam and have a few differing answers. Here are my interpretations. 1. 400nm (aircraft is twin engine turbo-jet(turbine) and assuming it complies with 20.7.1B - a distance = to 120min at cruise speed or 400 miles which ever is less) 2.18 hours Refer CAO 48.1 para 3.10 4. no further requirements The question is referring to co-pilot not PIC. Refer CAO 40.1.5 para 11.5, 11.6 & 11.7. all requirements are met for co-pilot. 5. The instrument must either be removed from the aeroplane or placarded as unserviceable CAO 20.18 para 10.2 says u/s instruments under provisions of para 10.1 shall be prominently placarded u/s or removed from aircraft. 9. no further requirements Aircraft for IFR only needs (CAO 20.18 4.1A - d. capability of operating the flight controls to maintain flight and manoeuvre the aeroplane about the roll and pitch axis e. an automatic heading capability f. altitude hold capability. All of which are covered with 2 axis operation?) 15.Yes, in CTA as well as in Class G airspace you should always correct for wind in holding patterns AIP ENR 1.5-21 3.2.1 e |
ATPL air law
Hi Guys,
If any of you have finished your ATPL Air law and can lend me your docs for a couple of days, pls do PM me. I'd really appreciate it. I'm flying for a freight charter in India but doing my Aus ATPL exams and can't afford to buy all the docs just for a few days.. Your help is greatly appreciated!! Thanks |
DAPs in atpl airlaw
Hi guys,
quick question. For anyone who has done atpl air law are the DAPS east/west required as specified on the permitted materials?if so fair enough- just prefer to save some cash from not buying them if i can avoid it! |
I seem to recall one question ages ago bout Adelaide curfew. Don't think there would be a whole bunch of questions, so u might be able to wing it.
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I am going to do my ATPL conversion too but dont have much time reading all the text. its great to have some sample here. if you have more tricky questions please add them here.
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Nkand,
Did this a couple of months ago and I did get the qu about Adelaide curfew. I didn't have daps and I got it wrong, but it would seem this must be the only qu requiring daps to answer, so maybe you could print out the Adelaide section and bind it up and take it in. I had out of date ersa and ercs from work but bought a new cao and car which was about $180 from memory and passed no worries. |
I did mine in April, passed no worries.
- There will only be one question at most requiring DAPs, so save your money. I made an educated guess and got it right, but a quick read of Adelaide's curfew requirements should increase your chances. It's only one question though. - I bought nothing for the exam. My employer allowed me use of the company printer to print all relevant CAOs and CARs (about 900 sheets of paper, 2-in-1 double sided) and I used coloured blank sheets to act as dividers. Naturally I highlighted key rules throughout the document. I put the whole lot into some old ring binders I had from my flying school days. All of this is permitted. I didn't actually study the rules in isolation, preferring to use three practice exams to learn how to use the CAOs and CARs. Also I read the "common errors" section of CASA's website to read the most important CAOs very carefully, e.g. flight & duty times. This taught me to RTQ, which is vital. Good luck, O8 PS - by my reckoning, the answer to the very first question is "one ILS only". 85 + 4 = 89 days, one day short of the 90-day requirement for 3 hours of IF. |
I guess no one studies the syllabus material these days. Just a matter of memorising the answers to pass the exam!
:oh: The result of this is very evident here on pprune. Lots of people asking questions. Lots of incorrect answers forthcoming. No one seems to know where to find the correct information. Because they've never bothered in the past. Too lazy to look it up. Don't actually have any documents to look up. There're too expensive to buy and maintain! As a group of so-called professionals, we really are dumbing ourselves down! And a large part of the industry is taking advantage of that. |
Captain Fathom has reminded me that actually I did buy an ERSA with RDS, and borrowed an AIP. You can't sit the exam without knowing those quite well. You shouldn't need anywhere near the maximum number of tags permitted.
As far as CAOs and the like, yes, they are very expensive to buy and maintain just to pass the exam as a one-off. Now that I'm actually working in Australia I maintain (& regularly review) a current set of all required documents. But not CAOs - that's what the interweb thingy is for. |
Aussie ATPL Air law questions
Hey guys going to sit my ATPLS Air LAW(A) on friday.
just have a pickle with question 7. RPT aeroplanes with a MTOW greater than 5700kg are required to be equipped with certain flight instruments. Which combination of instruments is the minimum number which meets the requirement for provision of HDG information? One gyro-magnetic remote indicating compass and one direct reading magnetic compass One direct reading magnetic compass and two gyroscopic HDG indicators Two direct reading magnetic compass Two gyro-magnetic remote indicating compass One remote indicating compass and one gyroscopic HDG indicator Minger's answers suggest One remote indicating compass and one gyroscopic HDG indicator But i need to know why it is not a) One gyro-magnetic remote indicating compass and one direct reading magnetic compass. My understanding of CAO 20.18 APendix II paragraphs 1c, h and 5 are that:
Para5 suggests that a Heading indicator in 1(h) may be omitted if you have a Gyro-magnetic type fulfilling paragraph 1c (ii) Note that 1c (ii) requires a remote indicating compass 'AND' a standby direct reading magnetic compass. (if duplicated powersuply) the question doesn't say whether or not we have duplicated Power Sup. therefore i feel the first answer is more correct because in the case of the last answer, you still additionally require a standyby direct reading magnetic compass. Someone put me out of my misery. Regards Jason Glatzer Perth WA |
vfrl7r - if you search these forums I'm pretty sure you'll find those questions posted in various Air Law threads. :ok:
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Here ya go.
You are to conduct an extended range operation over water in a twin engine turbo-jet aeroplane with a TAS of 440kts. What is the maximum distance the aeroplane may operate from land before the requirement for carriage of life rafts applies? 880nm. 220nm. 50nm. 400nm. 100nm. You are a member of a three pilot flight crew for a turbo jet aircraft. On this aircraft an approved seat is used by resting flight crew members. After completing a 24 hour rest period you commenced a rostered 10 hour tour of duty which was extended to 12 hours duty time. A 15 hour rest period followed this. You have flown 70 hours in the last 30 days and 800 hours in the last 365 days. The hours on your next tour of duty with the same set of flight crew in this aircraft should not exceed - 20 hours 22 hours 18 hours 14 hours 24 hours May the pilot of a class A aeroplane carry out maintenance on that aeroplane? No Yes, as authorised by the aircraft's approved system of maintenance Yes, as authorised in Schedule 8 of the CAR Yes, as authorised by the aircraft's approved flight manual You have been rostered to fly as copilot of a two-pilot crew on day RPT flight in a high capacity turbo-jet aeroplane. Your last Flight Proficiency Test on this aeroplane type was 5 months ago. You have flown 28 hours on type within the last 65 days including 2 takeoffs and 2 landings and you last flew that aeroplane 30 days ago. What requirements, if any, would you have to fulfil to act as a crew member on this flight without supervision? No Further requirement A flight test in this aeroplane type to the satisfaction of a check pilot One takeoff and one landing in this aeroplane type One hour of approved refresher training in a simulator for this aeroplane type Three hours flight time including one takeoff and one landing in this aeroplane type Your RPT aeroplane has an unserviceable copilot's direction indicator which is included as a permissible unserviceability in the in the aeroplane's permissible unserviceability schedule. Assuming that the item has been entered on the aeroplane's maintenance release as unserviceable what further conditions, if any, apply to permit an RPT flight to be conducted with this unserviceable instrument? The instrument may not be removed from the aeroplane The instrument must be placarded as unserviceable and must not be removed from the aeroplane The instrument must either me removed from the aeroplane or placarded as unserviceable No further conditions apply Specific approval must be obtained from CASA A PIC rostered on a high capacity IFR RPT flight in 4 days time has a Command Instrument Rating endorsed with NDB, VOR, ILS and LLZ. Within the last 85 days, the pilot has flown 2 hours instrument time (one as PIC on the aeroplane and on as copilot on the Company's approved flight simulator). The time included two NDB, one VOR and on LLZ approaches, all flown 33 days ago. The pilot expects an operational requirement to conduct an ILS approach in IMC at the destination. What additional experience, if any, is necessary for the pilot to meet the recent experience requirements for this flight? Two hours instrument flight time One ILS approach One hour instrument flight time One hour instrument flight time including one ILS approach None RPT aeroplanes with a MTOW greater than 5700kg are required to be equipped with certain flight instruments. Which combination of instruments is the minimum number which meets the requirement for provision of HDG information? One gyro-magnetic remote indicating compass and one direct reading magnetic compass One direct reading magnetic compass and two gyroscopic HDG indicators Two direct reading magnetic compass Two gyro-magnetic remote indicating compass One remote indicating compass and one gyroscopic HDG indicator You are the pilot of a turbine powered aircraft of MTOW 13000kg carrying 30 passengers in an IFR CHTR operation, where navigation would include the use of an approved GPS system. The waypoints for your routes as published the maps for this flight are included in the GPS computer's database. If the waypoint data changes slightly, then the GPS computer can only be updated by - an approved supplier. the pilot in command. a person approved by the aircraft operator. a flight crew for the flight. An aeroplane which is normally crewed by a single pilot in RPT operations is fitted with a 3 axis autopilot which also has automatic HDG and altitude hold functions. The yaw damper function is unserviceable, but is listed as a permissible unserviceability in the company operations manual. Under what conditions may this aeroplane be flown in IFR RPT operations? The aeroplane may be flown - only if the second control seat is occupied by a second crew member holding at least a commercial pilot (aeroplane) license with an endorsement for the aeroplane type only if the second control seat is occupied by a second crew member holding at least a commercial pilot (aeroplane) license with an endorsement for the aeroplane type and a copilot instrument rating only if the second control seat is occupied by a second crew member holding at least a commercial (aeroplane) license only if the second control seat is occupied by a second crew member holding at least a private pilot (aeroplane) with an endorsement for the aeroplane type and a copilot instrument rating without any additional requirement On completing a tour of duty as a member of a two pilot crew you note that the total flight time was 8 hours and 50 minutes. If the previous day was a rest day, which of the following constitutes a minimum acceptable rest period before before commencing the next tour of duty? 12 hours, which includes the hours between 10pm and 6am local time 13 hours, which includes the hours between 10pm and 6am local time 24 hours 9 hours, which includes the hours between 10pm and 6am local time An IFR RPT aircraft is crewed by a single pilot. What particular requirement applies to the equipment used by the pilot of that aircraft for listening out and transmitting on the radio The aircraft must be fitted with - at least two headsets with boom microphones and a press to talk switch on the pilot's control column one headset with boom microphone and a press to talk switch on the pilot's control column an emergency cockpit speaker system and emergency hand-held microphone one headset with boom microphone stowed so as to be immediately available for emergency use by the pilot You are the pilot of a turbojet aeroplane of MTOW 120000kg use for RPT operations. To operate under the IFR, a suitable GPWS for your aeroplane only needs to - calculate height above the terrain directly along your flight path calculate height above the terrain in your current vicinity provide a computed display of the terrain directly along your flight path provide a computer display of the terrain along and in the vicinity of your flight path An aircraft may be flown lower than 500ft above the terrain without a permit from the Authority if engaged in - law enforcement operations by or for the Police fish spotting operations search phase of a search and rescue operation flying training in any part of a flying training area You have departed on a SID from an aerodrome with ATC (radar) Departure cancels the SID. What conditions apply to the cancellation of the SID? The cancellation may be effected - below MVA if weather conditions permit climb in VMS, by day or night, to MVA. only at or above MSA/LSALT. below MVA if weather conditions permit climb in VMC, by day, to MVA. below MVA or MSA/LSALT if the aeroplane has a minimum climb gradient of 3.3%. only at or above MVA. When flying headings and timings in the holding pattern of an IAL procedure, should allowances be made for wind effect? No, the published procedure already caters for this factor Yes, in CTA as well as in Class G airspace Yes, in CTA only. No, if there is no means of obtaining known wind. When being radar vectored on a heading which could infringe terrain clearance, a pilot would first recognise a loss of communication from ATC by - no transmission being received from ATC for a period of two minutes. no transmission being received from ATC for a period of thirty seconds. a white flare or steady white light from the Tower. a transmission being received from ATC on the emergency voice channel of a VOR or NDB. ATC activating the transponder indent light. What requirement applies to carriage of a mode A and C transponders for aircraft operating in Class C airspace? For aircraft which are fitted with an engine driven electrical system, transponders must be carried by - all aircraft. all aircraft within radar coverage. only IFR aircraft within radar coverage. all IFR and only those VFR aircraft within radar coverage. only IFR aircraft. When conforming to a standard descent profile in a jet aeroplane, what is the speed variation which, if exceeded, must be advised to ATC? 15 knots 10% 15% 0.15M 10 knots When refuelling and loading of the aeroplane is completed you note that a refuelling tanker is parked directly behind your twin engine turbojet aeroplane at a distance of 40 metres. In this situation what limitations apply to starting engines? You are not permitted to start up your aircraft engines. You may start up and taxi as normal provided the tanker is manned or its wheels are chocked. There is no limitation on the operation of your aeroplane. You may start up and taxi as normal provided the tanker is not refuelling another aircraft. You may start engines but shall not apply power to start taxi unless the tanker has moved away. You are in command of an IFR RPT twin engine turboprop aeroplane climbing to cruise at FL160 in Class C airspace. Explain who is responsible for separating your flight from a VFR cross-country flight transiting Class C airspace at FL155? You provide your own separation, as ATC only provides separation between IFR flights. ATC will provide separation for your flight with the VFR traffic. You provide your own separation based on the traffic information supplied by ATC. You provide your own separation base on 'see and avoid' as ATC does not have information on VFR traffic. You provide your own separation as ATC only provides separation between IFR flights and special VFR flights. If LAHSO are to be conducted at an airport, what meteorological conditions would be necessary to permit simultaneous landings? Minimum ceiling of - 500ft, minimum visibility of 1000m, by day and night 500ft, minimum visibility of 1000m, by day only 1000ft, minimum visibility of 5000m, by day and night 1000ft, minimum visibility of 5000m, by day only You are engaged in operating a twin turbine aeroplane with a passenger capacity of 30 seats in a regular scheduled service between two regional centres. The aeroplane is hired by another company and the service is only available to carry that company's own employees and freight. What is the classification of this air service operation? A private transport service. A charter operation. An aerial work operations. A regular public transport service. A private operation. You are the pilot of a RPT turbo-jet aeroplane parked next to the airport terminal building with all three engines operating. May passengers or cargo by loaded in this situation? Passengers may embark or disembark if they are properly briefed on how to protect themselves from injury as a consequence of the operating engines. Freight must not be loaded or unloaded under any circumstances. Passengers must not embark or disembark under any circumstances. Freight may be loaded or unloaded without restriction as long as the aeroplane wheels are chocked. Passengers may embark or disembark without restriction so long as the aeroplane wheels are chocked. You are PIC of a CHTR cargo flight scheduled to depart Sydney for Singapore. Apart from the operating crew licenses and medical certificates, maintenance release, and cargo bills of loading and manifests, which additional aeroplane document(s) must be carried on board? Flight manual Flight manual plus certificate of registration and airworthiness Flight manual, radio equipment license plus certificate of registration and airworthiness Flight manual ply certificate of registration. Flight manual plus certificate of airworthiness. You are PIC of a series of CHTR flights in a twin engine turbo0jet aeroplane. The operation requires you to transport 180 adult passengers each with a baggage weight of 35kg from CANBERRA (YSCB) to MELBOURNE on the same day. You plan three flights, with 60 passengers on each trip. The company operations manual allows the use of a standard weight of 84kg per adult passenger. What requirements apply to the completion of a load sheet for these operations? One load sheet shall be completed for - each of the 3 flights, and this shall be carried in the aeroplane, with a copy left at YSCB. the entire 3-flights operation, and this shall be carried in the aeroplane with a copy left at YSCB. the first flight, and supplementary load sheets for each for the other 2 flights, and these shall be carried in the aeroplane, with a copy of each left at YSCB the first flight and supplementary load sheets for each of the other 2 flights and these shall be carried in the aeroplane. the entire 3 flights operations and this shall be carried in the aeroplane. An RPT flight from SYDNEY to PERTH with 127 POB plans to operate at FL350. All its flight crew members on flight deck duty must each be provided with a supply of supplemental oxygen that is equivalent to - the aircraft's emergency descent safety period or 10 minutes, whichever is greater, provided the aircraft's manual sets out the time specified by the manufacturer for descent from the maximum operating altitude to 10,000 feet. the aircraft's emergency descent safety period. the aircraft's emergency descent safety period plus 30 minutes 45 minutes. You hold an ATPL with a command endorsement on a high capacity twin turbo-jet aeroplane. What other requirements must you meet in order for you to conduct conversion training in this aeroplane? You must be specifically approved by CASA to conduct conversion training on this aeroplane type. You must hold an appropriate instructor rating. There is no other requirement. The pilot you are training must hold an ATPL (aeroplanes). You must hold an appropriate instructor rating or be approved by CASA. Your aeroplane is fully equipped to operate to Cat 1 ILS approach minima and the relevant data for the destination aerodrome is: Landing minima: RWY 09 ILS (CAT 1)DME - 220ft, 0.8km RWY 09 LLZ DME - 550ft, 2.0km Runway lighting facilities serviceable: PTBL PN, MIRL MAN SBY, T-VASIS What is the landing minima that will apply? 220ft, 0.8km 220ft, 1.2km 550ft, 2.0km 220ft, 1.5km 220ft, 1.7km As a flight crew member of an aircraft you become aware of a defect in the aircraft. Which of the following actions are you required to take? Enter the details of the defect in the maintenance release and sign the entry. Inform the chief pilot of the defect so that he/she can make other crews aware of the defect. Inform the maintenance engineer of the defect so that he/she can enter it in the maintenance release. Inform all other crew members who are likely to fly in the aircraft, and inform the maintenance engineers of the defect. |
ATPL Air law references - ERSA complete and ERC/TAC/PCA charts
Hi all. I require a copy of each of the above references for a trainee who is rather short of cash; does anyone have recent/current copies that are excess to requirements? If anyone is interested in unloading these for a financial gain, please PM me, all assistance appreciated :)
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CASA ATPL Airlaw
Hi Guys,
Ive got the ATPL Airlaw booked for next week. I only have 4 AFT revision test V7.0. is it worth buying any more or/are there any current exams from AFT thats worth while investing in. Any advice regarding study tips, methods, strategies used etc?? I head back o/s next weekend so I only have 1 go at this exam untill next year again. Any advice would be kindly appreciated. Safe flying to all |
candidate supplied material
Gday all
I am flying into oz on the weekend and will the give the ATPL Air Law a crack next week. Do I really need to buy all of the references mentioned...ie DAPs East/West, Ersa et al?? Any tips or tricks to watch out for?? Cheers Turkey |
G'day ,
Has anyone sat the recent ATPL law and human factors exams? I need to sit them next month any info on new material such as TEM in human factors would be most appreciated. Cheers guys. |
hello
g'day,
do you have the answer to those questions? thankx |
Yes. You'll find them in the AIP, CAO, CAR or CASR's.
It's not a rote learning exercise, in this profession you WILL need to know where to find regs let alone information from the countless manuals you operate from. |
ATPL Air law
Hi All
Looking for some clarification on the following items.. Air law is doing my head in The minimum equipment required relating to heading indication systems in an aircraft with a MTOW over 5700 kg on charter operations is - a direct reading magnetic compass, a directional gyro and a remote indicating compass a direct reading magnetic compass and a directional gyro a directional gyro and a remote indicating compass a remote indicating compass or a standby direct reading magnetic compass |
Is the ATPL air law exam still 30 questions in 90 minutes?
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