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notmyC150v2 15th Oct 2009 07:12

Employers need to be concerned about ASKING for the following information (if it is volunteered there is no need for concern):

1. Previous injuries / workers compensation claims - It is unlawful in Queensland and NSW to ask if a prospective employee has made a workers compensation claim or suffered a workplace injury. I am not sure about other states.

What you are allowed to ask is "Do you have any medical conditions which may be exacerbated by the performance of your duties"? And "Have you suffered any injury which may be aggravated by the physical and mental demands of the position"?

These questions are perfectly legitimate and will give you the information you need. If the applicant lies it is a dismissable offence.

2. Marital Status, Country of Origin, Sexual Orientation, Gender, Gender Identity, Religion (except in very limited circumstances not applicable in aviation), Political Alignment or Party Membership, Union Membership, Age (unless as previously stated it is directly relevant to the position i.e compulsory retirement age etc.), Ethnicity or Family Responsibilies (Children etc).

It is perfectly legitimate and LEGAL to discriminate on weight, height, piercings, hair cut, clothing choice and scruffy lookingness. (Except where one of these is genuinely due to an item listed in 2 above).

Remember only discrimination based upon a characteristic specified in legislation is unlawful. Discrimination based on anything else is fine and dandy.

I am sure that having read the above someone will ask "But how will I know that they have a visa to work here if they are foreign"? Well you ask this question,

"Are you an Australian Citizen"?
"If you are not an Australian Citizen, do you have the legal right to work in Australia? y/n"
"If you answered yes, please provide the relevant Visa or residency documentation"

This gets you the information and keeps you out of the poo with the Department of Immigration and Citizenship.

If you are a job seeker please remember that whilst it is true that a resume is not sworn on the bible, a fib is good grounds for summary dismissal at any time after you have been employed. There is no "statute of limitations" on this.

I wish I had access to this thread years ago. I wasted $200 getting my resume done professionally 12 years ago and didn't get a single interview with it. Every job I have ever got was through a cobbled together two page document which was emailed through and followed up with a few phone calls. Ahhh wisdom truly does come with age...

Jamair 15th Oct 2009 10:24

I put this format together when I was involved in a large organisations HR operations; I have used this with great success over the years and shared it freely.

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p...ume-Format.jpg

FRQ Charlie Bravo 15th Oct 2009 12:17

notmyC150v2, so if I don't get a job based on looking "scruffy" can I just blame is on having a teething infant and sue the bastards for discriminating against me? Was there ever a better excuse than children?

FRQ CB

Providing for one's family is a watertight excuse for making money hand over fist. Greed may be a sin, exploitation of other people might look rather nasty, but who can blame a man 'doing the best' for his children.
-Eva Figes

Mach E Avelli 15th Oct 2009 13:47

Jamair, that is a good format, but it lacks one key piece of info that a prospective employer would probably want to focus on - a break down of hours on the more significant types e.g. Total turbine xxx hours Turbine command yyy hours B200 zzz hours command

notmyC150v2 15th Oct 2009 22:12

FRQ CB

You could try, and I have no doubt there would be a large number of lawyers lining up to assist you, but you would fail.

DeltaT 15th Oct 2009 22:24

WOW what a very insightful thread. Such diversity in opinions that no wonder we all find it so hard to get a job.
After reading this I feel like I should submit 5 different versions of my cv for every job I apply for to cover myself on the tastes of who could be reading it.

goldypilot 15th Oct 2009 23:36

here is a good idea. attached to the resume send in a photo of your ugly head. What is the deal with that ok guys. I must addmit i have watched my old boss hire a hot chick from looking at her photo on the resume and she got a good gig. but how is this going to work for a dude when the boss is a dude. assumeing the boss doesnt like headjobs from the pilots i dont think it increases your chances so done waste my time.

remoak 16th Oct 2009 02:57

Well mate, if you work for a company where jobs are handed out because the boss expects some sort of sexual reward, you are pretty much screwed (if you'll pardon the pun). God knows why anyone would want to work for such a boss, but I suppose desperation does that to you.

Those of us that live in the real world select people on a slightly more logical basis... :rolleyes:

BTW if you want to advance in your career, a little bit of attention to spelling and grammar wouldn't go astray... most employers like that sort of stuff...

goldypilot 16th Oct 2009 03:57

well buddy i am just stating something i saw. not that i am part of it or anything. i am sayin that people shouldnt put there photo on their resume. No need to have a dig brother. i wasnt rude to you so i think you should stop giving advice. if u have nothing good to say....... dnt say anything at all. RANT over

PS: im just a dumb pilot stick and rudder doesnt require an english class just Qantas jet jockies

johnriketes 16th Oct 2009 07:56

remoak

With ref to replying.

A good answer indeed and my sentiments entirely.

If a company treats pilots with contempt when they are looking for pilots, how are they going to treat them when they don't need them.


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