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G Limit 14th Oct 2009 05:08

Bonuses paid to Dash and Bras will go along with the ITEA's on 1st Jan to make way for the Collective Bargaining Agreement. Without the bonus, it's less than award T&C's (fact from Workplace Authority) so read the fine print MitchelB. There is no mechanism for the bonus to be paid or not paid. It can be taken away any day.

Anyone care to guess what percentage of Captains are applying elsewhere?

Mecarsa Bitrusty 14th Oct 2009 11:51


Bonuses paid to Dash and Bras will go along with the ITEA's on 1st Jan to make way for the Collective Bargaining Agreement.
Well that will go down well!

G Limit

60% actively looking if not already in discussions!
20% thinking very hard about their future!
10% too lazy to move on!
5% still think there is light at the end of the tunnel and their input will save the company!
4% unemployable in the real world!
1% actually happy!

the wizard of auz 14th Oct 2009 12:29

Bwahahahaha. noice stats. :E

MitchelB 16th Oct 2009 03:08

Is the bonus paid ontop of the salary? I mean if the salary goes, will the base stay 90K? If so that is still pretty good compared to what we see in the states.

MB

vee tail 16th Oct 2009 05:32

The 95K is inclusive of bonus and super:ok:

metrodashbrazconkie 15th Nov 2009 23:38

I hear that by early next year that almost half of the crews at skippers will have left. and by the sound of it, most will be going at about the same time :eek:. Management better start shakin the tree i recon.

Mr. Hat 15th Nov 2009 23:47

Not only at skippers its about to happen elsewhere to. Lot a guys hve got the suit laid out on the bed and polishing the interview shoes.

The GFC was a good time for some the tide is turning now..

Soar2384 6th Dec 2009 03:34

Anyone know when Skippers will be recruiting their next metro drivers?

Ref + 10 7th Dec 2009 11:10

Mecarsa. How many pilots are there now? 50 - 75 maybe?

That mean that three quarters of one pilot, maximum is "actually happy"

Seems not much changed after all. At least Networks 80k salary (figure a couple of years old) was a true salary and not some pie in the sky bonus scheme that existed on the whim of some manager who may or may not like you this week... I never liked the bonus scheme concept that they implemented as people seem to flow in and out of favour so quickly that it would be hard, if not impossible to bank on receiving the bonus.

Not exactly what I would call a salary package. I'd like to know how many pilots received the bonus as a percentage of the eligible candidates.

It is good however to see the airlines starting to recruit again. How will Skippers fair this time around?

G Limit 9th Dec 2009 01:49

If you sign up to the 90 days resignation notice period then generally you get the bonus. BUT, as was hinted in the internal newsletter recently, if you fail a check then your bonus will be withdrawn. F/O's need to sign up to the 90 days to get a job and no bonus is paid.

Any word on the Enterprise Agreement payscales yet?

Soar2384 12th Feb 2010 07:08

Has it begun?! AFAP shows captain positions available across all the Skippers fleets! Has Skippers already lost pilots or are they just preparing for the future?

Mecarsa Bitrusty 12th Feb 2010 07:57

5 have departed since the beginning of the year, 4 captains and 1 FO, from across all fleets.


Skippers
DASH BRASILIA METRO & CONQUEST PILOTS

Skippers, WA’s Truly Regional Airline, are seeking suitably experienced Captains to fill vacancies on our Dash 8, Brasilia, Metro and Conquest fleets. Only endorsed applicants with a minimum of 2500 hrs total time & 500 hrs on type should apply.
Plenty of opportunities for piston drivers on the horizon, safe to say they won't fill many slots with endorsed drivers.

KRUSTY 34 12th Feb 2010 11:07

Direct Entry Captains eh!

So what's the go? Are Skippers unable to upgrade their F/O's (none now meet the min criteria), or are Skippers unwilling to upgrade their F/O's ( DEC's being a cheaper option)

And finally, what happens when they can't get em'? :E

ForceFeedback00 13th Feb 2010 00:40

So Krusty, I decided to make a call and find out some more information.
Seems there is a flight standards position available in weeks if not days (this may be filled internally, this I was unable to find out), so this could be the reason they are only looking for endorsed applicants.
With reference to the crews leaving, there is 2 gone to J* with 1 (mentioned above leaving very soon), 2 gone to VB (with another 5-10 who have already interviewed with VB). There was mention of some heading to Skywest and others looking at Maroomba and Network. Although this is across all fleets it seems it is largely coming from the Bras and Metro crews.
Further more I was told in excess of 60% of the cabin crew have had it with 5 day weeks and doubles daily on less than 30k. There apparently headed off at a rate of 1 a week.
I mentioned the topic of upgrades, was told there are some upgradable FO's on each fleet.
Hope this helps.
Things arnt that much different over here
Welcome to the next national exodus! ;) Enjoy the ride :E

vee tail 15th Mar 2010 02:06

So time has gone by and it seems YEP they are leaving:ok:
Lots gone ...... some goin......... and others lookin down the barrel.
Funny how forced annual leave can turn into EXODUS.:D(not meaning that is why crew are leaving but how sh*t changes in short time periods)

Gotta go and get my coffee

Some bored thoughts:ok:


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